Holy shit, the new gimp looks amazing!

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    We're at this again? Stop struggling... Buy the Affinity stuff, it's 50 bucks and about 10 years in the future compared to this turkey of an app.

    If you don't want to give Adobe your money, of course.
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    You're getting a $500 app, one of the most amazing programs that exist today for 50 bucks.

    I'm inclined to call it the software bargain of the century.

    Put away $2/day and you will be able to afford it in less than a month. @Alice
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    @intromatt I don't do professional image editing, so GIMP is really enough for me. I agree you maybe shouldn't use GIMP if you're serious about image editing.
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    I like it (i love dark designs in general), but - monochromatic tooltips? this will take some time to get used to, right now i need to search for a minute to find the correct tool.
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    No, it works in Windows. I don't think the company wants to support a niche OS from which they would generate absolutely no profits from.

    Business 101. @Torbuntu
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    Even if you are somewhat moderately interested in graphic design and photo editing Gimp should NOT be on your shortlist, not by a long shot.

    Gimp's user interface and workflow is obtuse and opposite. I understand that paint.net may not be as powerful but it's certainly easier to grasp for %90 of the folks out there.

    There is no need to struggle anymore with crappy apps. We have very cheap and free alternatives now. @Lahsen2016
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    @intromatt if you just need to have *some* tool to do something powerful every once in a blue moon, gimp should be your choice.

    You're right though, it's hard to get used to, and the workflow is lacking at best.

    Even worse, the scripting documentation for python-fu is literally from the last century and outdated on all ends.
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    I am sure it does.

    You can also run Deluxe Paint inside an Amiga 500 emulator, too....if you're into stuff like that.

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    I use Gimp on Mac as it’s free but I really hate it. I don’t do image editing enough to justify paying for something more expensive but I really hate gimp.

    It’s so slow and buggy. Takes forever to find font files. Had an issue with a recent version where alert boxes loose focus, requiring to click every pop up before you can click the button. When I copy an area why doesn’t the new tab prompt default to the size of the clipboard item!!!!

    That last one really pisses me off, as with my limited editing. Copy pasting sections is one of the only things I do.
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    I feel that spending $50 on Affinity's software to end the struggle is a cost well warranted.

    (there are many other very cheap choices, as well).

    Adobe no longer has a stranglehold in this field...in my opinion.

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    I have a MiniSNES...I should hack it just to play Mario Paint.

    Time to crack open a beer and investigate further...

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    Can I come over? @Alice
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    Use single window mode ! Trust me that is better than having toolbars floating!
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    @sak96 Didn't know about that, thanks! :D
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    GravitDesigner is free and Its free. Multi Platform. Give it a try.
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    Ohh sweet lord. I am booking a plane now.

    Beer or whiskey?

    Or...perhaps come visit me...I live in a beach resort on the Black Sea, my wife is a chef and we have 2 cats!!! @Alice
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    Gravit is very cool but nowhere near as powerful as Affinity designer, not even close.

    Please note that it's not a photo editing app but a vector drawing program.

    For vectors I would stick with Illustrator or Affinity...just for compatibility and frustration sake.

    The $50 will save you 500000 hours of frustration....in my opinion, of course. @CodinNShakin
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    @intromatt can affinity designer automate image manipulation? Does it offer me the option to write my own filters? Can i add custom tools to it which allow me to create assets for me game that follow a certain ruleset? No?

    Stop shoveling your properitory turkey software on others then.
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    How is Affinity "turkey software" I am not understanding what means?

    I am not sure as I don't use automation in Affinity. I have Adobe Cloud and use Photoshop's automation tools for more of the "high end" stuff.

    If you are serious about graphic design I would obviously suggest Adobe's stuff....they are eons above the rest (I never meant to say that Affinity is on par with Adobe stuff....at least not yet).

    But hey, for $50...they are on a roll and they keep winning all types of awards are are rather highly regarded as a company.

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    Get well!!!! @Alice
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    @intromatt Have you actually tried the new version? I asked a designer friend (I hardly use photo editing software) about this and he loves the new version.

    I don't get why people try to put down open source software as bad by default.

    If you haven't fully tried the new version, how can you form an educated opinion about it?

    And yes, some people actually fucking care about open source software and systems and they have goddamn good reasons.
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    @intromatt, turkey was related your first comment on this rant.

    Also nope adobe products do not fullfill all needs of image manipulation. Also a lot of exports from adobe products are dirty as it gets for example all svg exports contain dead objects etc.

    Also for your information i own a CS6 master collection and got the CC suit.
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    Of course I have, I have spent a lot of time with Gimp.

    Bottom line is that even though I live in Eastern Europe and money is tight I can afford to buy proper software for the work at hand instead of fiddling with crappy open source software. My time is important, file compatibility is important, workflow is important.

    Gimp is a fuckin' joke...actually less so...it's complete shit.

    Affinity is $50 for fuck sakes.....$50...what are we arguing about here, anyway???? $50?? Not $500...

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    I never said that Adobe stuff is on par with Affinity stuff.....Affinity is still a bit behind.

    But at $50 it is a quick and super cheap way to get your feet wet in graphic design before you pull the trigger on the Adobe suite (which, of course, costs considerably more).

    ..that is all I was saying...@Hammster
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    I have used gimp and inkscape for so long that now when im trying illustrator for the first time I actually struggle
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    @intromatt dont give me that easteen europe excuse. I lived long enough in montenegro and i even weared adidas tracksuits to weddings.

    In the Balkan, if you use design software, you either pirate it or pay it from your freelancing money which is mostly trice what a average doctor gets.

    You get the same money a german freelancer gets, and you pay less taxes, less life expanse and enjoy price adjustments for your country.

    So dont give me that cash argument.
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    @intromatt Gimp is totally fine to use. I love it.
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    @Alice Why though
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    @intromatt there doesn't seem to be a Linux version of Affinity products.

    No tux, no bux.
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    @linuxxx i can only speak for myself, but the whole open-source-not-as-good-as-paid-thinking some people (including me) have might come from how you see yourself and your work philosophy. What's the measure for a "good job" if you don't get paid for it?

    Personally, I don't really care about the result if it's for me or I won't get anything back from it. So why should I do my job especially good and maybe perfect the product?

    And gimp vs photoshop is the same thing. It feels like gimp was made by some dude for themselves. Photoshop is backed by a company, having a whole department for analyzing usage of their product to make it the best ux possible.
    Same for corel draw vs inkscape.
    Of course they cost one hella money nobody has. But it's kinda understandable why.

    But i guess it heavily depends on dev and community. E.g Sublime vs Atom has no winner. Because Atom devs and it's kickass community actually work on the product so it satisfies a wide range of users and don't ignore issues.
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    It was about f***ing time!
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    @Alice It looks awesome. I like Affinity too but Gimp is free. Why pay for Affinity? You can do almost the same with open source software. And especially if you're not a professional you shouldn't care too much about that.
    Sry if I sounded rude ^
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    Every one keeps touting Affinity. But if you are a designer, you will likely bail as soon as you discover that the 0 point of the ruler is locked. Can't move it. They've been promising this trivial feature for literally years, and it's essential for almost any design workflow. Simple stuff like this matters.
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    @intromatt I hope you also do realise that (most likely) around 50% of those you've tagged use linux and won't touch neither Mac nor Windows with a 10 foot pole, completely ridiculing the Affinity products, as it's completely useless and proprietary, closed source, non-free software, while GIMP and Inkscape both are free, open-source and gratis programs, completely fitting for the task.
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    Someone posts that they like something about the gimp, and predictably, invariably, someone else comments to say, "GIMP SUX USE WINDOZE." Yawn.
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    @daintycode I said open source, not free!
    Take Ardour, free if you compile it yourself, otherwise 50 dollars or so. Ubuntu is free as well and they make profit for sure! Same for mozilla.

    I get your points by the way although I don't entirely agree. As I said, I've got a designer friend who really likes the new GIMP. The cost doesn't bother me at all, just the closed sourceness, also for security reasons.
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    @intromatt I don't care about the money. Open source != free (as in money).

    I just rather don't use software which isn't publicly reviewable, for security reasons.

    And gimp is not bad, it's bad in your opinion which is perfectly fine.
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    @linuxxx I just want to add, that for me personally, the biggest part about liking free software isn't security. It's about freedom!

    When some proprietary software has a bug or misses a feature, I am completely dependent on the developers fixing it or adding the feature. This is especially problematic when I want a very specific feature that they would never implement because they wouldn't make profit.

    Free software allows me to dig through the source code and apply changes myself. I can even make a PR or just create a fork so that other people benefit from my changes.

    I also believe that knowledge should be free and accessible to anyone. That's why I also support free software for ethical reasons, and especially what's going on in ML research right now is just amazing, and I consider it the future of scientific research. Just think about how much more efficient research gets when all the results are shared freely, rather than keeping them behind paywalls or completely locked up!
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    @Lahsen2016 This this this this this!
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    @sak96 not if you have a tiling wm
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    @Lahsen2016 exactly! Open source software has way more potential than closed source software! Just look at redhat, they made what is considered by many as the best os for a server and it’s open source. Once we get more companies having open source as a business model, the software world will be a better place

    And btw, open source != fr$$
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    you can change the icons so that they get back color (there’s olds ones and new ones)

    You can also install custom themes
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    @-vim- confession, i was lazy looking into that. thanks!
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    To me, I could never get used to gimp... the triple window thing always felt irritating because I had to resize it all the time I opened gimp... however, I still like gimp... it is a free software AND open source ( free is important since I ain’t earning right now 😕 ) and the features it contains are actually impressive for what measly work I do with regards to graphics... m in no position to talk about high end graphics stuff since m light years away from that...
    But I guess gimp is great for what it does... sure has some hiccups... but it works fine enough as well...

    Also, since I don’t use Windows I literally can’t get anything which supports only that... so there is that too...

    So I guess bottom line would be to just work with what tools best work for u and ur environment... and when I earn money properly, there is no problem with buying stuff too... I’d love to contribute with my money to a fellow developer who creates good software to make my life easy 🤗
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    Finally, I do love open source software... they inspire me to code and I love looking at code of other people... noticing how much thought they generate to write such marvelous looking code.

    I am also fine with proprietary software but I do wish it were somehow open source too... like a license which states that the source code is out, but u must pay the company to use the software... I guess most people will find that viable...
    Those who don’t will pirate anyway 🤔
    What do u think @linuxxx ?
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    @Electrux Well free as in freedom software doesn't mean you can't sell your software. Some handle it by selling the binaries, and it's just free if you compile it yourself (for example Ardour). Since most people don't know how to compile software, and many of those who know it are happy to donate to an open source project, this is a great approach IMO.
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    @Electrux The freedom part bothers me a lot but the fact that you can't verify shit as for security in case of proprietary software in this day and age is why proprietary software is a no-fucking-go for me.
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    @linuxxx umm... I was asking about the license part 🤔 m not sure what did u answer of... thanks for the response nonetheless 😁

    I was saying that proprietary in the sense that u need to buy the software to use it per license... how the license works I specified in previous post...

    Sorry I used wrong wording... it’s not proprietary if the source is available... my bad 😅

    @Lahsen2016 so... u agree with me about the license? 🤔
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    @Electrux Sorry! I've had 4-5 hours of sleep every night since last Friday so not that bright.

    That would be at least something. And that license already exists :)
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    @linuxxx wait what? What’s that license? U literally can’t have a unique idea anymore can u 😂😂😂

    And it’s ok... no problemo 😁
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    @Electrux It's not actually a license question. Ardour is licensed under the GPL, which allows free redistribution of changes as long as you use the same license. And still Ardour binaries are sold (which the GPL and all other free software licenses explicitly allow).

    It is also perfectly legal to provide free downloads of Ardour binaries, and you might argue that this stops the project from receiving money. But free downloads exist for proprietary software too (piracy), and I don't think piracy being illegal is really stopping anyone who just isn't willing or not able to pay for the software.

    To summarize, whether software is free (as in freedom) or not has nothing to do with whether someone is selling it. Software under a free software license is NOT in any way proprietary if the developers sell it instead of giving it out for free.
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    @Lahsen2016 huh... that’s a pretty cool thought! I like that... thanks for sharing it... a lot 🤗🤗🤗
    Never thought about it like that 😅😅
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    @Electrux Aseprite is another example of this aproach https://www.aseprite.org one of the best pixelart tools i know. And even though i could compile it, i paid the full price.
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    There are 10 kinda of people in this world.
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    @intromatt sorry i dont feel like paying 50$ for a pixel art editor
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    You sound poor. Hope your situation changes. @nik123
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    @intromatt well. You're kind of right, actually.
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