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cursee142229dYea it sucks but learning from non-living things has its benefits as well. It just takes a bit of extra time.
xe0n108dTo be fair, learning off your own back gives a more rewarding feeling than that of being spoon fed by someone else ;)
Push through and do not give up.
nanl14688dI can totally relate to this. I was reading the rants this week and suddenly realized I don't have any great mentoring experience to share as well.
I learned a lot observing other developers when working with teams, and also books, courses, etc. But that is a probably more time consuming and exhausting way to improve.
But anyway, we are improving, and that's what matters.
if you learned programming on your own, then you found the mentor in yourself.
because all a good programming mentor will do is teach you how to learn by yourself.
However it is good once you get a flow to run past people who get paid to do it as a day job ;)
I taught myself C# and some java for automation mobile testing (appium etc), my version 1 regression scripts could be 3000 / 5000 lines long.... (LOTS of logging/reporting more than the controlling logic) and after speaking with a coworker/friend who is a dev I manage to get that down to <1000 lines with the same result.
It's all about trial and error and what I find is the hours and hours spent debugging can teach you so much even if it's a simple missing , or ;.....
It's all fun stuff like one big game
I feel you, it's hard, especially if you're really extraverted and could use someone experienced to talk about your ideas with and get feedback, advice and guidance
MigliSt6368dActually imo I love it, to learn on my own. Sometimes I wish anyone would've teached me, but it's kind of a motivation for you to improve yourselfs :)
Agreed, I would absolutely love to be able to run ideas or ask for someone to review my code to see if they can think of how to make it better.
I think people get wrong idea about my comment, I don't want to be spoon fed information, but lets face it, books don't teach you proper code etiquette and techniques.
I can figure out almost all logic, but doesn't mean my code is best way to do it.
I think to progress from intermediate programmer to advanced you need to be on a very good team, I am not sure if you can do it alone to be honest.
I feel as if I have plateaued in my abilities and I am trying to figure out a way to move beyond the plateau and I think if I joined a very advanced team I could do that. Not entirely sure there is another way.
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