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Floydian
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I have been using this DNS by Cloudfare and have seen slight improvement in performance.

How reliable and trustworthy it is?

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    It works 🤷
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    https://theregister.co.uk/2018/04/...

    TLDR: whatever DNS you use, you have to trust them, but the only metric for trust is reputation. Most keep some data for a few hours, and use aggregate anonimized information for longer.
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    @bittersweet so it izz safe?
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    This really works dude! In fact, according to most of the DNS tests, it's the fastest in the world. Though it won't speed up your connection but yeah it'll load your websites faster than before.
  • 10
    @Floydian About as safe as any other DNS. It is an American company, so depending on your viewpoint and trust in your own government it's safer/less safe than the DNS provided by your ISP.
  • 9
    Hey its still much safer the google DNS surely.
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    @bittersweet Murican!!! Ah!!! End of conversation. Okay jokes apart but I get it.

    @skalpasi @Haxk20 well thanks. As always you guys to my rescue. Will use this on my Pi Hole implementation.
  • 5
    @Floydian NP man happy to help. Yeah pi hole is one thing i cant live without now. Installed it on Rpi Zero that i bring with me. When i go onto wifi anywhere it routes me trough that DNS and tor also yay.
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    @Haxk20 you carry one wherever you go?

    Why not install a VPN and stay connected to home network?
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    @Floydian because it really makes the websites load faster and everyone wants to get their websites load faster than ever and so he does. And a VPN most of the times slows the internet connection in my case so I will prefer 1⁴ over VPN
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    @floydian yeahhhhh i dont want to run vpn at gome. Have one outside country and that connects me to tor so yeahhhh. And yes i carry it everywhere. If you see a guy with cool necklace and Rpi on it. Thats me.
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    @skalpasi 1^4 over VPN? How does that work? Aren't they both different?

    @Haxk20 I demand a picture of your portable setup.
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    I use it because my ISP uses dns to block porn during the day and I don’t have access to stop it. 🤷‍♂️
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    @Haxk20 why exactly is it safer than googles DNS server?
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    @skalpasi DNS server is not anywhere near replacement for VPN proxy connection.
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    @irene they don't keep datas like the google DNS does 😅
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    @Drillan767 or do they?
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    @Drillan767 and should you even be concerned about Google retaining some data?
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    @skalpasi you can always set up a VPN server for ~5$/month on a VPS and not worry about any slowdowns because you can tune the settings on both server and client ... also, you can set up a VPN so that it doesn't route all the traffic through the VPN (there for invoking the said slowdown) and instead just provide a virtual network so you could access your DNS server, say pi hole for example. Tho, if you want to keep your traffic from prying eyes/logs on those public WiFi's, a VPN that routes your traffic through it might be the best option.
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    @Haxk20 I also demand a "Pics or it didn't happen" of that Pi-clace.
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    @theKarlisK if you want a pic wearing then no. If you want pic of it just then i would but my ROM build still has camera broken. Im just lazy download new sources since its 50gb
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    @Haxk20 I'm curious about it's portability and size, so just a pic of it will quench my curiosity. I have a RPi3 B+, which, while portable, is still pretty clunky to log around with a 20 000mah battery pack.

    I'm also guesing the case has to be somewhat rugged since it's that portable.
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    Sometimes faster than default DNS, sometimes no network at all… meh
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    @Haxk20 photo of the system, we not interest oou. We ignore oou..

    @theKarlisK I am wondering how does he connect the rig while on the move.

    @JS96 what do you mean? Is it just some placebo?
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    @Floydian RIG you say...
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    If you have android pie, you can use 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-dns.com as private dns instead of using a separate app.
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    @marci010101 I am still on Marshmallow.

    But would love to how can I set my DNS and that to private without an app?
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    @Floydian it has a new option in network settings.
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    @marci010101 found out they have even shorter name: one.one.one.one

    (found by using nslookup on my PC)
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    For me, it is my main dns behind pihole. It works great.
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    @theKarlisK Since we’re already posting references to games, let me share my rig.
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    @RantSomeWhere I can't seem to recognize it... Is that C&C?
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    @irene cool, didn't know about it, the one above is the only one they mention officially:
    https://blog.cloudflare.com/enable-...
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    @RantSomeWhere lucky guess - C&C series were outside my radar scope when it was all the hype.
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    @theKarlisK Cant post it. Or better say cant take the photo. ROM camera broken
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    @Haxk20 no problem.

    ...we can wait @.@

    Seriously tho, no need to flash a stock ROM or potentially brick your phone in the process. Throw it up as a rant when you can.
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    @theKarlisK sure thing. brick ? who do you think im ? noob ? i ported this rom ffs
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    @marci010101 @irene what's the private DNS?

    And how 1.1.1.1 is different than those you mentioned?
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    Cloud flare is cancer, avoid at all costs. I avoid sites that use their service whenever possible
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    @FrodoSwaggins Please provide some more insights supporting your opinion.
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    @Floydian cloudflare does https endpoint ley crypto as part of their anti DDOS farms. They can literally sniff almost any network traffic /in the world/ unencrypted because of how many customers they have. They don’t even try to hide this. They say “we’re even more secure than that” and then proceed to explain how they look at the unencrypted traffic for sql injections. It’s absolutely foul and disgusting, I have never been so repulsed by a company in my entire life. I tell myself every night the only way this could possibly be happening is people just aren’t aware. And that’s what makes It the perfect crime. The more customers they have the more coverage they have. If it’s not an NSA coup I’ll eat my fucking shoes and drink a gallon of diesel.
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    @Floydian seriously, stay the fuck away from cloudflare. They are a danger to our freedoms and our basic human rights.
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    @Floydian I also find it suspicious how quickly their service exploded given how new the company is. The whole thing reeks like spoiled piss of government sponsorship and gentleman’s agreements
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    @FrodoSwaggins but then what alternatives do we have? Google?

    @linux I remember you posting about this someday from where I got this. Any idea?
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    @Floydian internet is internet. It’s a big ass flat ip network. You don’t have to use any of these services. You make your own rules. The reason services like google and cloudflare become popular is the culture that supports them, and they’re powerful enough to shape that culture. I don’t use them and I get by fine.

    By the time you’re big enough to attract ddos attackers, you’re either the westboro Baptist church or some other sick group who probably brought it on themselves or you’re big enough to have a server farm who can deal with it, and if not, sit back and relax it will be over in a bit

    That said it’s entirely possible that there are reputable companies actually doing the right thing out there. I just don’t fucking care because I think that service is overrated stupid pointless and hasn’t done a damn thing for the betterment of society.
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    @Floydian the field requires dns instead of IP address. That's all.
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    @FrodoSwaggins I get your point and agree to it one hundred percent.

    I just lack technical knowledge to understand all this easily.

    If not Cloudfare, then how does my system work? How will it identify DNS? I guess ISP might be routing it somewhere? Maybe Google as that is most renowned one, right?
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    Installing an app just to change your DNS 💀
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    @vocuzi Android at its finest
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    @Floydian back in the day every domain ran their own DNS servers. And even more back in the day (decsystem 10 days) DNS didn’t exist and you navigated by IP.

    The intermediate step was the /etc/hosts file. In the later Unix days but still pre DNS you would actually download a new version of this file every night and it would list out all of the hosts on the internet. That’s why it exists, it’s actually the precursor to dns.

    Starting in the 90s ISPs has a domains and dns; and typically they would configure your gateway to use that. As far as I’m aware that’s still the case. Pretty much every home ISP I’ve had used dhcp and half of their reason for doing so was to configure your DNS settings on your gateway and the gateway software in home routers then serves that up to your local dhcp clients usually unless you configure it otherwise.

    If you want to go old school you can search through directories of dns servers and look for one you trust.

    Some companies like google run public dns servers. Mainly to track you, because then they know all the hostnames you look up and these days that’s more or less equivalent to the websites people visit and the streaming services they use. I personally run my own dns server and I sync hosts with a few other people that I know running dns servers for themselves. I also send dns queries to my server through vpn so actually nobody knows I’m routing dns queries there.

    Dns is also super dangerous because private interest companies can redirect your traffic pretty easily. It sucks.

    The biggest networks out there still run all their own domain services. Once you get to a certain scale the only way to deal with it is host your own domain services.
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    @Floydian I read your question again, and feel I need to expand on one more thing: dns is a property in your ipv4 (and ipv6) settings. You can either set it manually, or often times, dhcp servers give a dns server back with the lease. So you get your ip, your local gateway route to external network, and a dns server to use. Typically as I mentioned before home ISPs and gateways serve this up to you through dhcp. It’s part of the customer experience thing, when you plug in your router and connect your computer it should “work” so that’s what has largely informed the software design on home gateways and the design of the dhcp protocol itself. There’s nothing preventing you from just overriding the dns server address yourself if you wish, no matter what network you’re on as long as traffic can reach it.
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    @Floydian It happens to be faster than Google's DNS or default one (by my ISP), but sometimes it doesn't work at all (at least in Europe), so I can't recommend it.
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    @FrodoSwaggins That knowledge just blew my brains off!!!

    Dude I have still a lots to learn from you (and from this community).

    I understand DNS system better. So technically you are adding another layer of anonymity by using own VPN and DNS server alongside other things, right?

    @JS96 Even I noticed the delay while using the Discord app on my Android. Weird.
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    @Floydian that’s a very nice compliment, thank you! A lot of people think I’m overly opinionated, but really it’s just that I’ve seen a lot ;)

    Yeah so I think DNS is a very common spying vector that flies under the radar a lot. So I use my own!
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    @FrodoSwaggins you've seen some shit 🤣
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    @FrodoSwaggins You're welcome :)

    Haha I always found you to be a tough (unapproachable maybe?) dude with strong opinions and feared to get into discussions (arguments maybe?) with you for the said reason.

    But you seem to have a decent knowledge and I think you know your shit well, which is a good thing worth being proud off.
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    @Floydian he can be both knowledgeable and strongly opinionated. One does not counter the other.
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    @irene both your points. I have seen things that to call shit would be a compliment.

    We’re actually designing our CPU’s specifically to run JavaScript faster these days. Which just seems like the wrong solution. Everything we do these days seems like the wrong solution X_X
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    @FrodoSwaggins Hahaha mother of God you perfectly explained my own look at this (including the facts), thanks for explaining it this well and saving me the typing!
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    @FrodoSwaggins what? I haven't heard such blasphemy yet O_o
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    @irene most technology out there is gross once you pull the hood off
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    Been following the discussion quietly. @FrodoSwaggins have you ever thought about writing a blog or something? There’s really a lot to be learned from you.
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    @RantSomeWhere I try to use the internet as little as possible ;) some day I’ll write a blog when I’m on my death bed and have nothing to lose. Oh wait, I work in software. That’s now!
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    @FrodoSwaggins you got life outside internet? 😮

    Okay, but how has writing a blog got anything to do with losing out of stuff?
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    @Floydian

    Quad9,

    But the thing is, that they are using the data for something despite what service you use.

    The best thing is to use a DNS server that you trust, even if it is slower.
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    1.1.1.1 is basically a big AnyCast adress, nothing more
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    I just read this on mastodon:

    I sometimes imagine that somewhere there must be a Ministry for Messing Up the Internet. It would be like a Monty Python sketch.

    Each day a new idea would arrive in the intray of an official who looks like a young John Cleese. They would form a large pile of papers.

    [reads] "Make a protocol so complicated that nobody can understand it. No the Sematic Web has already been tried".

    [reads] "Ban all the cat photos for spurious copyright reasons. No, we already have an upload filter in progress to do that".

    [reads] "Fill Tim Berners-Lee's socks with elephants. No - much too silly."

    "Ah yes, [reads] make a giant man in the middle that everything on the internet has to go through like a sausage machine and get squirted out on the other side, hopefully in the correct order. Bernard, get Cloudflare on the phone immediately."

    @bob@soc.freedombone.net
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    @Linux this is fucking beautiful!
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