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Fuck this shitty day seriously. So I'm the only frontend on my team and our team lead knows some frontend from 6 years ago or something I guess and doesn't really understand that modern frontend is fucking complicated.

So now he decided that we are going to use some shitty protocol that is not json to communicate between frontend and backend just so they don't have to build a stupid controller and a simple API on fucking shit ass Java.
I told him it's a bad decision that brings no benefit since it has no easy integration with any popular frontend library, we are locking ourselves up to this solution so new people that come in are going to need to learn this shit just so they can communicate to the backend, we have absolutely no need to do this I'm just working on simple CRUDS anyway and the only thing this will bring Is pain in the frontend.
He just ignored me and say no no it's going to be easy so let's just do this. Bitch I was hired because I know my shit, if you're going to make a big decision like this just because you don't want to write a fucking simple API and some swagger documentation you can fucking burn in hell and don't deserve your position.
This kind of issues just perpetuate the eternal problem of frontend vs backend instead of just working as a team. Why do backenders think they're smarter than anyone that does frontend or that frontend is worthless? I don't go and tell them how to build their microservices or anything like that since I assume they know what they're doing and I respect their work, why can't I get the same? What is this fucking shit, why do I have to suffer because of this guy? Why can't we find a middle ground.

While we are here, also fuck monorepos and companies trying to copy google or Facebook just because without actually thinking of solving a problen

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  • 5
    Frontend guy complains when something doesnt try to be js: the movie
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    Proper rant. I dunno, I get the feeling that people think that back end is hard, serious, and science-y while front end is just a bunch of morons implementing transitions and accordions in jQuery. Or that we're complicating things with our new-fangled frameworks and libs without knowing what we're doing. If the whole world wide community of front end engineers could just recruit one backender then everything would get solved in a couple of days, at most.

    They are just two overlapping domains. Different problems. Hard problems.
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    @ganjaman bro, did you even read?
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    @ganjaman nah man, i'm complaining about people with the same attitude as this comment, I used to do backend in other languages that are not JavaScript, I know it's hard too. I'm not asking for anyone to use JS anywhere im asking for people to use a widely accepted communication method for APIs that is Json.
    Fuck man im complaining about people feeling better than others, about people that compartmentalize any argument into "hurr Durr fuck javascript and frontend is for stupid people".

    I'm complaining about this invasive attitude in this field that makes us believe that everybody else is an idiot but ourselves. So fuck you and fuck everything that you represent, go burn in fucking hell
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    @erandria yes i did, tldr "stupid frontend dont use json so i had to google for 20 seconds to find a {{not_json}} parser boo hoo"
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    @ganjaman everytime I read one of your comments is one condescending, presumptuous, hateful shit...

    what did life do to you

    you don't even know this guy, we don't even know exactly the "protocol" that he's complaining about.

    but no, you already made your mind about him with little evidence.

    give him the benefit of the doubt on this, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt of having a good reason to being an asshole to others.
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    Well, we just went with gatsby, graphql, react, cypress and aws for our new project. Cms will be something like contentful, strapi or netlify, we will see.

    Who is talking here? Actually the backend guy :) So believe me, we’re not all like this.
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    @ExGetMessage yeah I know, I don't want to perpetuate any sort of "fight". I'm just complaining of a special breed of people that shit on others that is usually more pervasive on backend guys, but I've also seen it on frontend guys f.e. shitting on everything that is not JS.
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    @rmrfHead just being open for new things helps. If you really are a dev by heart you love new stuff. Criticize it where necessary but not because of the language.

    Most of the people I met who were hating on a particular language were just too lazy to learn something new.
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    @erandria hey, you know my name, thats more than i could ask for.

    @rmrfHead again, in other words, fuck the backend for not wanting to redesign a whole architecture so you could get a json. If you (admittedly) worked with java, then you know how painful working with json is, especially if you dont have a good mvc architecture. Also fuck swagger.
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    FUCKING INSIST, PLEASE.

    If he's really that much experienced ask all the difficulty questions about this protocol that have to do with your front-end job.
    Let him taste what's are the modern complex challenges of front-end developmentšŸ˜ˆ
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    Did you know IBM has an xml implementation of json?

    Be grateful you don't use that.
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    @mundo03 that sounds like a world of pain...
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    Communication is key in any project. And I hate when someone thinks that something their doing is more important to the extent they act on their own. It’s unprofessional, hurts the app/site/whatever else, and pisses people off. Even though I don’t like doing front end a whole lot. I still respect the art of it and the people that do it. If it were me I’d make a simple/basic looking front end that can do the job but people that are good at it can make things I can’t even dream of making.

    Good luck with that fuck twat and I hope it gets resolved. Have you tried communicating with the project manager or the other team?
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    @mundo03 dear god have mercy...

    lol the copyright symbols are outta control.
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