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So our junior front-end web developer was jealous of us seniors for having MacBooks at work, because all we do is simply close the MacBook and carry it with us to be opened the next day.

So he leaves his PC open except for the monitor screen after working.

Thus the back end guy and I decided to put Ricardo Milos as his desktop background. 😂

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  • 4
    You should have done worse than that. Though usually we just flip the screen upside down if we find that where I work, once or twice people got strange chat messages on behalf of the offender.
  • 3
    Say what you want, but macbooks are useless and a wast of money. Only test systems need osx and osx build servers and vms are cheaper.
    Regardless my pc is always locked and automatically locks itself when I forget it. What a noob.
  • 7
    @p100sch they are not useless and a "waste of money" argument can be applied to anything money can buy and so its subjective by the use case.
  • 1
    @bioDan They are objectively overpriced, and thus are wasteful of money.
  • 5
    @smirving objectively by who? students? yeah sure.

    By the market? Nope. Sorry. For many companies they are worth their price.
  • 3
    @smirving lol, you are talking about a few dollars in comparison to the ~100K we generate through it per year, over multiple years. Optimistically, you might generate over half a million dollars with one device. And there are you, complaining about the 500$ one might have lost 😂
  • 1
    @bioDan Maby we then should go and buy gucci and Louis vitton. The market rates them as very valuable after all. They are overpriced it is factually correct, but the market does not care. Apple is a lifestyle brand nod a computer manufacturer. And they try really hard to fuck with you when you are trying to fix them out of warranty, so thats that.
  • 1
    @p100sch What are you even talking about. A MacBook might be 25% pricier than a comparable notebook. Or even 50% for you Apple haters. But a Gucci bag ist about 5000% higher priced than a comparable bag...
  • 3
    @p100sch if you can afford gucci and LV and you think the price justifies the value then go for it. Overpriced is a subjective term.
    For many companies the value that a MacBook brings is worth the price.

    Compare it to a Standard PC based on another OS, it may be overpriced, depending on your needs.

    Compare it to a D-Wave quantum computer, it may be underpriced, depending on your needs.
  • 1
    @bioDan Have you seen Louis Rossmanns youtube channel? They are built like shit and Apple likes to penetrate the backside of their customers, while the customers are in denial
  • 1
    @Mr-Myrk i haven't seen that channel and i don't have a MacBook and i hate how Apple conduct their business.

    But 5 years ago when i worked at a company for 3 years as a fullstack developer they gave me a MacBook and it worked like charm.
  • 5
    @Mr-Myrk you know how often I opened the back of my 24/7/365/3 running MacBook Pro? Exactly - 0 times.

    However, be glad your competition is so stupid and buys overpriced Apple products.

    God damn, poor people make me sick.
  • 2
    @p100sch both subjective as all hell. I have two of them, can't think of a more reliable computer, you get a BSD variant out of the box with complete synch between os and hardware components. They are pricey, but judging by how long they last(or have lasted me) i would not call them a waste of money.

    source: macbook pro 2013 is working like a charm and the 2017 model same on my end, from mobile development to full stack web dev, no complaints from me.
  • 3
    @Mr-Myrk Rossman has some very valid points of concern regarding maintenance, I also know what he must be used to opening laptops on most other brands and pcs and stuff. never had to open a macbook for shit man.
  • 2
    @AleCx04 As a professional I wouldn't even bother to repair such a cheap "tool" by myself after warranty ended. No matter if this thing initially cost 1000$ or 3000$. It's way too less to even care about it. I'd rather buy a new tool and immediately earn money with it, instead of wasting important resources (time) on saving money. For casual users, sure, a MacBook is overkill. But who the fuck actually buys a brand new, fully equipped MacBook Pro to surf the web on sundays.
  • 0
    @sboesch for a tool with that budget, a sane person would buy a lenovo of the same price. Then again coding on a laptop screen and keyboard is for peasants anyway
  • 1
    @Mr-Myrk Why? Does a lenovo make me a better programmer? And sorry, didn't know external monitors break synchronous to your laptop. Somehow had not a single hardware failure for the last 10 years I'm using Mac, so I can't tell.
  • 1
    @sboesch so true man, and this is my main gripe about people saying that they are useless or overpriced. We as developers use them as the tools that they are to make money. Like I tell people "they pay for themselves"
  • 2
    @sboesch this! I get it that some people can’t afford it but if you live in a western country and you’re a professional dev it should not matter wether a tool cost 2000 or 3000. A contractor can earn around 800 euros a day in the netherlands, time is money and if time is wasted because of a cheap machine you’ll lose more.
  • 0
    I think you should try the French "croissantage" 🥐🥐
    Basically, of someone leaves their session open you send "tomorrow I'm buying croissants for the whole team" from their computer
  • 1
    @bioDan Do you understand what the word objectively means? It is just overpriced, the person buying it is irrelevant. They are overpriced relative to the market cost of the components.
  • 1
    @sboesch @sboesch Saying something is overpriced isn't a complaint, it is an observation of reality. I'm not saying they are bad machines, or that they arent a useful, and even sometimes essential, tool for developers, but pretending that you arent paying a premium strictly due to the brand is just fanboyism and brand worship. They are great products, but outside of a few niche use cases like certain kinds of software development you are paying more than you need to.
  • 2
    @smirving
    1. you are right, thanks for your absolutely objective insight. Finally someone mastered third person view in real life!
    2. I need a new car. Should I buy a Porsche or a Mercedes AMG? Which one is less overpriced? My budget is so tightly strapped, a few thousand dollars really matter when buying a luxury car.
    3. What about shoes? If I have exceptionally good experience with Nike in competitive sports, should I risk everything and buy Adidas because they are a bit cheaper? Who wants to win when you can grab a bargain instead.
    4. I am more productive using MacOS instead of Windows/Linux. How do you estimate its worth? Is it worth more or less than Windows?
    5. As I said before, we don't care if we pay a few dollars more. It doesn't matter long term from a company's perspective. That's penny-pinching and a waste of time.
  • 1
    @sboesch Stop crying man, wtf. Both of you have a valid point. Yes, you will generate way more money with them and for the company it does not matter. It does not change the fact tho that macbooks are overpriced as fuck if you look at the components. So stop being a whiny bitch about it. No one is telling you to stop using them. Stop feeling personally attacked.
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