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shakur
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i want to rant about stackoverflow, how the 'admins' are treating new users and questions. there is a capitalist mobbing culture going on on stackoverflow, therefore i now turned back to codeproject. what is your experience on stackoverflow?

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  • 15
    I've never been mobbed, downvoted, or treated unfairly by mods on SO.
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    I've been smart enough not to have an SO account.
  • 1
    @Fast-Nop :) it is kind of just refusing questions that they think ia not okay for them but it is solely subjective treatment no real base for deletion.
  • 8
    "capitalist mobbing"

    What, a bunch of entrepreneurs, business people, and investors suddenly rush in and trashtalk you?
  • -1
    @Root elitist and capitalist is the same, those who had the money aquired knowledge, which they refuse that others could aquire by asking the right questions
  • 11
    @shakur They are very different things. Elitism is a type of personality/outlook, while capitalism is an economic system.

    You can have elitist communists, too.

    (Also, rich people tend to want to teach those who ask the right questions -- because someone being able to understand and know to ask those questions is so rare.) There are non-capitalist rich people, too, though, and those often act as the snobby gatekeepers you refer to. See: hollywood actors, some silicon valley CEOs, etc.
  • 4
    My WordPress calendar widget question remains unanswered.

    The only question I've ever asked.

    Still feeling sour.
  • 8
    @shakur The real kicker is that the high-rep SO folks earned their reps with exactly the kind of trivial questions that they now are preying on for removal.

    For a while, SO reps were even a job ticket, and Joel Spolsky himself mentioned that - proving he was lying when he otherwise claimed that reps had no meaning. With that in mind, it made business sense for high rep members to keep the pool of high rep competitors as small as they could.

    I think the whole concept of SO is flawed because nearly nobody updates old answers as it doesn't give reps, and new questions are blocked as duplicates. The result is an increasingly useless database full of outdated stuff.
  • 1
    @Root i have never met a socialst that is fighting for human rights and elitistly trying to hold the people away from the knowledge
  • 1
    @intromatt i would answer it but i am no wordpress expert
  • 3
    @shakur Real world communism was chock full of these people. They were clinging to power because 1) it was cool and 2) it meant that they didn't have to work. The more stupid ones among them even believed their own propaganda. The usual term was "aparatchik".

    They didn't mind millions of corpses on their way, and there isn't a single commie country where "human rights" have ever been respected.

    Conclusion: you don't need "profit" as reason to be an asshole.
  • 1
    @shakur I appreciate your non help. *hugs*
  • 0
    @Fast-Nop very good answer, but do not forget following: once i sat down and downloaded their databse dumps and imported a part of it, i searched for ways to make money with information technology or with software e. g. prediction of soccer game outcomes by models, i realized SO was actively deleting all kind of questions and answers that enabled people to make money by their own... they want to keep the developers disabled drones in companies
  • 7
    @shakur I have never met a socialist that is fighting for human rights, either. Almost every single one says they are -- and many even believe it -- but it's quite far from the truth. For example: "We must improve the lives of the minorities by treating them better than everyone else! and imposing fines and taxes and laws against the rest because they're evil and deserve it!" 🙄
  • 0
    @Root sudo destroy stackoverflow
  • 5
    @shakur Communism has never worked in the history of the planet. Seriously, give me a single example.
  • 1
    @shakur Combining a predictably failing secular ideology with the fuckups of religion on society level would be an entertaining clusterfuck - if it didn't imply millions of killed people.
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  • -1
    @Root dont mix european communism with real communism, it has worked
  • 5
    @shakur Where's this shining example of successful communism?

    Give me the name of a country, city, etc.

    Seriously, every single proponent of communism says the exact same thing: "But that wasn't real communism! We just need to do it correctly!" And they can never give an example of where it's been done correctly, or even really differently. The closest thing to successful communism the world has ever seen is China -- which only hasn't collapsed because they have a capitalist economy. Their political system is absolutely communist.
  • -1
    @Root Iran, leader: Mazdak
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    @Root Arabia, leader: Muhammed
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    @Root Sham, leader: Jesus
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    @Root Babylon, leader: Hammurabi
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    @Root Palestine, leader: John the Baptist (John the Sabean)
  • 3
    @shakur

    Iran: not exactly pleasant, especially for women. Not pleasant for anyone that isn't Islamic, either. They also have shops, and everything isn't distributed equally among everyone. Meaning: not communist.

    Palestine: kind of the same as Iran, except very run-down.

    Arabia: Saudi arabia? No. Dangerous for women, especially dangerous for any non-muslim. Old Arabia? No idea, but I believe it had a ruling class, which isn't very communist of them.

    Sham: No idea; never heard of it.

    Babylon: No clue how living there was, as it was sacked by the Asyrians thousands of years ago. It was a shining city, supposedly, but it's hard to say because it's been so long and not many people can read cunieform. nor are there really records chronicling everday life of peasants and ruling class alike. (And in communism, there isn't supposed to be a ruling class, is there?)

    Really, there's a trend among all of your examples save maybe Sham: they have leaders. There is no leader in communism save the average worker.
  • 6
    @Root And all of these have one point in common: there's no record of a successful communist society. It's a wild mixture of unconfirmed tales, historical misrepresentation, wishful thinking, and jQuery.
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  • 0
    @shakur Christianity says something quite similar; why is it not also "communist" in your mind?
  • -1
    @Root it is. read my examples Jesus was indeed an communist leader. but as i told you this has nothing to do with the European communism, that is a satanic version to lead the humans to their inner pleasures and bring them away from the path.
  • 2
    This Internet section has officially given me loose bowels.
  • 7
    @shakur You really don't understand what communism is.

    Communism isn't just being charitable when you have more than you need. It's working for the state, giving it everything you produce, and having it split everything up equally among everyone. If you produce ten apples and your neighbors produce zero, communism states you divvy the apples up equally regardless of the amount of effort the others put in. In other words, communism rewards their inactivity. If you work hard, or if you produce nothing, you still get an equal share. It therefore encourages laziness.

    The more moral approach would be: "help yourself first, then help others." Which I believe is what jesus preached. That is charity, not communism.

    Also, a tenet of communism is the abolishment of currency. Everything is to be divided equally, so there is no need for trade, nor anything that facilitates that trading. Therefore under communism, money is unnecessary, and therefore destructive. A ruling class is also destructive to communism, as it infringes on the common worker's authority. No society that has currency, shops, or positions of power/leadership is practicing communism.

    tl;dr
    None of your examples are of communist societies, and communism is not what you think it is.
  • -1
    @intromatt @Root :) no it is not, that is exactly what i told you too, the European communism has nothing to do with the real communism. communism means living working and maintaining a community. this was the real communism NOT the 1500 years later created communism of Europe. Charity is something totally different. Charity is giving without the need to give for someone who has nothing or less. But in communism it is the other way around, you give so that the taker has not to be dependend on charity. The prophet says: Charity is the dirt of humanity, because the taker is broken and the giver feels like he is the saviour. You shall not give charity, you shall HELP. HELP means you give a lot, doing charity is to give less. And you help before to avoid a bad situation, but you do charity after someone is in bad condition. THE WORDS WE TALK ARE THE SAME, BUT THE CONCEPT IS NOT THE SAME.
  • 0
    @shakur You don't belong here and you're a fucking creep.
  • -1
    @intromatt thought the same about u
  • 4
    @Root Communism in the West: "doing good things"(tm) with other people's money.

    Communism fully implemented: collapses as soon as you run out of other people's money to spend.
  • 2
    @shakur Wow, that's some crackpot linguistics right there. Can you do the same with the C++ standard? That would be entertaining.
  • 0
    @Fast-Nop you know our ancestors invented the writing ;) we know that shit...
  • 0
    @Fast-Nop no communism is not what you tell.
  • 1
    @shakur Even the direct son of a bright man can be stupid, so that proves nothing.

    And with the cultural collapses in-between, sharing the same territory doesn't even mean anything.
  • -1
    @Fast-Nop :) so so , so you know the language, and just want to hide the truth to the others, therefore you accuse me of "crackpot linguistics" :) ... you know it it translated exactly and fits perfect to the meaning ....

    second fact: it is scientifically proven, that IQ is being transmitted through genetics, HOW ELSE SHOULD COULD IT BE TRANSMITTED THROUGH AIR?
  • 1
    @shakur What? It's Latin.
    Transliterated: From/through hardship to [the] star[s].

    Anyway, riddle me this:
    If Islamic communism is so great, why aren't they first-world countries? Why did their development basically halt after algebra? You know, before Islam took over? Sure, there are cars and tall buildings and internet connections in those countries now, but none (or very little) of the development happens in Islamic countries. They are always lagging behind, using others' research and accomplishments instead of their own.

    Also, why is the US, the only capitalist, non-religious, non-communist/socialist country, the primary creator of new technology? If capitalism is so terrible, why is it the most prosperous country? Why isn't Iran the world's largest superpower with the largest economy? The US is only 243 years old. How long has Islam been around? How long have its countries been around? Have any of them ever been to the moon yet? Built a nuclear reactor (without help)? Built their own networking hardware? Treated non-Muslims as equal citizens? Treated women as equal citizens?

    Salt aside, you're basically saying: "Not that communism, the correct communism! Shame on you for not knowing my personal definition of 'communism.' " Which honestly just amounts to some morals taught by religion (despite you saying "communism coupled with religion" earlier?). Your definition also has nothing to do with economics or social castes at all. You also misused the word 'capitalist' in your original post.

    What are you even arguing here?
  • -1
    @Root : ) let me give the answer through Jesus's own words: 'because of the church of Satan'
  • 1
    @shakur Intelligence is absolutely genetic; however, thanks to mutations, dominant/recessive traits, allels, etc., it can vary wildly between children and between generations.

    @Fast-Nop's example is correct: an intelligent man's son or daughter could absolutely be an idiot, or retarded.
  • 0
    @Root Communism is not my personal definition, it is and has been around since humanity exists, it is the original way of human living, the hunter and gatherer societies were organized through communism. YOUR personal definition is "Karl Marx Communism" or "Stalin Communism", you tell only stuff that is 100 years at max old, ehm, is there nothing before???
  • 0
    @Root happens, there is a saying in German: "exceptions confirm the rule".
  • 2
    @shakur So, everything is better because it's evil, according to Jesus? Despite most people here actually following the teachings of that same Jesus? What?

    You aren't making much sense.
  • 0
    @Root I couldn't follow your sentence. As I told you, the situation is at this point, because there exists evil in the world. If you assign it to a persona or not, does not matter to the evil itself. It could be anything, but it is real.
  • 1
    @shakur Marxist communism is the accepted meaning of the word "communism." If you use that word, expect your listeners to assume you intend that meaning.
  • -1
    @Root I dont see anyone follow his path. Especially the christians are not following any of Jesus orders!
  • 1
    @Root You're arguing with a pigeon. Please save your sanity and intelligence for a more worthy discussion. Please.
  • 0
    @Root :D LOOOOOOOOL "accepted meaning", ... I am sorry, we were there way before Karl Marx was pissing in his pants.
  • 1
    @shakur Personally, I believe humanity is evil. There are a few exceptions, but in general... humans are the primary source of evil.

    (I say primary because I consider e.g. cancer and parasites to be evil as they serve no purpose other than to destroy.)
  • 1
    @shakur How did you know? Literally just had pork medallions with green beans. How the hell did you know??
  • 0
    @Root see, everyone that you see with your eyes, that look like humans, are not humans, take for example this guy that is attacking me here, he has two hands and two feet, he has a face like a human, but he is a pig, this is his personality, he is not an human, we do not accept "human looking animals", in the bible you will find, that we refer to them as animals, in the torah you will find, that we refer to them as animals, and in the koran you will find that we refer to them as animals, and in Daoism, you will hear: "those who are evil-doers, will be born as animals in their next life" ... and so on ...
  • 2
    @Root Jesus could have been a commie indeed. He had long hair, talked trash all day long, and it was a miracle when he actually did something. So he must have been a student, and these are often commies. That stops as soon as they earn their own money though.
  • 0
    @intromatt i know it piggy
  • 0
    @Fast-Nop he was literally fighting with an axe in the city until they pushed him to the mountains and deserts .... WTF are you telling?
  • 1
    @shakur Nah that was Game of Thrones.
  • 2
    @intromatt Making him look like a fool was entertaining at first, but yeah, you're right. This is utterly pointless. His last "I couldn't follow your sentence" rather proved that to me.
  • 0
    @Fast-Nop based on the narrations it was Abraham that swinged his axe, and it was Jesus that swinged his axe ...
  • 0
    @Root I couldnt follow you because you wrote exactly the opposite of that, what i told you.
  • 0
    @Root low IQ turd or a bot, hard to tell these days.
  • 0
    @shakur each and everything.
  • 0
    @intromatt i know you laughed ; ) and pissed in your pants
  • 1
    Wow, this is intense, I'm heading over to Stack Overflow where it's more relaxed.
  • 0
    @LMagnus Can you fix my WordPress calendar widget?
  • 0
    @Root
    Cancer and bacteria are good in their own ways, they try to destroy you to balance the eco system.

    I feel most of the things have both good and bad just like face of coin, but we are the once who code to look which ever face is on top (the face we like). Philosophy aside, I really want to ask if are SO admin?

    By they way I really like arch Linux way of question and answer. Don't answer old questions. Make a new question link the old one. Though they also ask you yo check if similar question exists.

    And yeah about stack overflow, it is pretty good in its own way as I never need to ask a question till now . God bless stack overflow. Wish this will be the case for eternity if time.
  • 1
    @Root We think alike. Nice!
  • 2
    @sak96 No, I don't work for SO. I don't really visit the site much, either.

    @Stebner55 Yay! Glad to see other sane people out there 😊
  • 2
    @shakur hahahahaha. That kind of unflinching, completely credulous belief in something that is demonstrably false is why I yearn for the sweet meteor of death. If your delusion was something harmless then, meh. But this particular delusion is what will give us the next killing fields.
  • 0
    @Root while the views of @shakur seems completely insane, I'm hoping your idea of progress, communism, and the current state of first world vs third world countries is purely fuelled by anger, because that's a very biased opinion you've shared in that specific 'riddle me this' point.
  • 1
    This, actually, escalated verz quickly 😂
    @Root😂 you're very patient. Odd but nice. I'm guessing it would be very fun to argue with you irl if you would only form your sentences so they can be followed.
  • 0
    @nnee Which sentence(s) were confusing?
  • 1
    @Root That came unexpected 😂
    That was meant as a joke. A (harmless) provocation, if you will.
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