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So far I can't get a non-abusive answer to this question in the medical forums I've asked, so on the off-chance someone here either knows the answer, or knows someone who knows the answer..

Before I go and venture elsewhere, like:

https://www.reddit.com

So, my question is:

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Paracetamol and Asprin not suitable for COVID-19 virus suffers ?

https://theguardian.com/world/2020/...

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The country’s health minister, Olivier Véran, who is a qualified doctor and neurologist, tweeted on Saturday: “The taking of anti-inflammatories
[ibuprofen, cortisone … ] could be a factor in aggravating the infection.

In case of fever, take paracetamol.
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Yet here it says:

> https://youtu.be/wBHyBrbU6EI?t=627
> Fever

10 minutes and 30 seconds in roughly he mentions about Paracetamol /
Aspirin / Ibuprofen and something else I'm not familiar with name wise, to avoid as they lower body premature.

So, correct answer is ?
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Related link:

https://texashillcountry.com/fever-...

(Ignore the rest of the sites content, this is just about the old fashioned approach to dealing with viruses.)

https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/...
> Fever management:
> Evidence vs current practice

Which to me, points towards you wanting to keep your temperature high enough to help your body kill the virus, not to lower it, unless its above say 42c..

I hope others here can see / understand my question, and don't just automatically dismiss it in very unkind words as a load of shit.

If the idea is wrong, I'd like to know why, with a decent technical answer !

My concern is the wrong medical information is being given out, and it is up to people like me to question things.

Because if I don't do it, who else is ?

Comments
  • 4
    Paracetamol and aspirin are relative weak painkillers with many adverse effects, some are helping sgainst fever, but since sars-cov-2 is a virus are antibodies, either produced by the immune system or by science. Lowering fever is in this situation contra-productive, since a higher temperature helps the immune system. Since no one has antibodies the only cure is to stay home/hospital, eat healthy, drink much and sleep under a warm blanket. If your temperature gets too high call an doctor and until he says nothing other: take a piece of cloth, make it wet and lay it on your head, change it regulary.
  • 2
    Many people are obsessed with taking ibuprofen/paracetamol to lower their temperature even if it's only slightly elevated. I agree with the sentiment that the body produces fever because it helps fight the illness, and you should only take medication to lower the temperature if it is way too high, say above 39°C.

    Then again, I'm not in the medical profession, this is just my personal opinion.
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    The UK argument above is against taking NSAIDS, as they can reduce the flow of blood and reduce clotting capabilities.

    The general consensus among the artiflcles would be manage pain without altering blood chemistry, none of it really has a linkage to fever. Viruses don't like heat, but the fever is generally more harmful than not. The body has a limited tolerance to temperature increase (heat stroke occurs at 104f, brain death at 114).

    NSAIDs: naproxen/naproxen sodium/Aleve, aspirin, ibuprofen/Motrin/Advil, diclofenac/voltaren/pensaid/fluorac

    Non-nsaid: acetaminophen/Tylenol/paracetamol, codeine, hydrocodone

    Tl;Dr if fever is manageable, treat the symptoms. If fever goes above the danger threshold, use antipyretics.

    Super tl;Dr call the nursing line from your local hospital to get actual medical advice.
  • 0
    If my memory serves at 42°C you'll have irreversible damage, so keeping it at 40°C or below would be wise.
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    @gronostaj at 41 degree celsius you are on the verge of death, 42 is death, because at 41 there is already permanent damage and at 42 your brain is like an hard cooked egg.
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    If you are above 39c, take them, you die from constant high core temperature.
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    @stop is that so? So you have any source that 41 is on the edge of death. Can imagine it difers from person to person. I once had 41 and went to work. I remember eating a lot of grapes to cut it down a little.
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    Thank you all for your sensible answers.

    I guess the question now is, what temperature should one aim for when trying to fight off an infection.

    I wonder if anyone has recorded values for when folk use the old method of sweating out a fever by keeping warm ?

    I'm reminded the other day someone I know left their mattress heating blanket on over night and woke up in the morning sweating badly, but their flu was much better that day !

    So far, not really found the answer there.

    Related link:

    https://npr.org/sections/...
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