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some of my friends saw that I use a different search engine, they asked what it is and why? I told them this is ddg, and a little bit about privacy, data, ... how it's better than google that way.
No one gave shit, they thought I'm paranoid or mad. I feel really bad when people do that. So, I turned ON the dark mode, and told them that this is what all the hackers use. One of them was completely surprised🤯. Now, he too uses ddg.

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    You might want to dabble in the world of advertising. I see potential 😁
  • 1
    I still laugh when people say DDG is privacy focused.

    And irony is DDG people calling others ignorant.
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    @F1973

    what's wrong with ddg?According to my knowledge ddg just use Google and other search engine result. The main differences is the DDG replace the personalize ads from Google with its own ads based on your search result.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
  • 0
    @mr-user The whole fiasco around DDG being privacy safe with no ads is the biggest BS of the decade.

    Half of their code is proprietary or closed source. How the fuck can the claim they are privacy centric?

    They never pushed ads. So this is new to me now and they are just being hypocrite by first bashing Google for selling ads and now they are doing the same thing.

    This makes me even more angry.

    Atleast with Google, I can have better search experience.
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    @F1973

    They are not bashing google for selling ads. They are bashing google for selling personalize ads (based on the profile that the google have collected over user on their life time).

    The DDG also push ads but their ads are based only on your search keyword.
  • 0
    @mr-user Isn't that a different way of saying personalised ads?
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    @F1973 No, because they aren't selected for you as a person (PERSONalized) based on your profile. They don't use phrases you've searched in the past, links you've clicked, sites you've viewed etc. - just the current search phrase. It's the profiling that is a privacy concern.
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    @gronostaj How can you say that? Is their code open source?
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    @F1973 I'm not talking about their code, just explaining the profiling and why adjusting ads to search phrase is not a privacy concern.
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    @gronostaj How can you be sure without knowing how are they doing it?
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    @F1973 I'm not arguing about that. I'm only saying that selecting ads based on search phrase != ad personalization and that contextual ads by themselves aren't a privacy concern. I'm not asserting anything about DDG's implementation.
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    @F1973 I am talking about the same thing as @gronostaj just said.

    You could ask your friend which live in different country to search with ddg using the same keyword. If he got the same ads as you they are only using the search term to give ads.This test is not complelty correct since they are a lot of factor in play such as randomization.

    Let say you and your friend search "car" and you got different ads.DDG may have randomize the ads they have for "car". Therefore you and your result got different ads.

    How could we be sure about it? I got to say trust. How could you be sure that I am not bullshitting the whole thing to you because I am founder of DDG and I got evil plan to take over the world?

    I think we have the wait until someone decided to investigate it. For what it worth ddg have https://github.com/duckduckgo

    I am just giving you the link but I got to be honest here. I have not look into it yet.
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    @mr-user @gronostaj fair enough but I wouldn't trust them since they advocate privacy and then keep half of their code as closed source.
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    @mr-user @gronostaj fair enough but I wouldn't trust them since they advocate privacy and then keep half of their code as closed source.
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    @F1973
    atleast it helps to stay away from the giant google.

    is ddg better than google in any way?
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    @F1973 There is no proof that DuckDuckGo operates as advertised. (There never is, on the web.) However, DuckDuckGo is very clear in its privacy policy; which says it doesn't track you, it doesn't send your searches to other sites, by default it does not use any cookies, it does not collect personal information, it does not log your IP address or other information about your computer that may be sent automatically with your searches, it doesn't store any personal information at all. Those are pretty strong promises, with no weasel-wording. DuckDuckGo's privacy policy seems like a model privacy policy. It is a model of clarity, plain language, and lack of legal obfuscation.

    DuckDuckGo would be pretty dumb to breach their own privacy policy; their privacy policy is clear and unambiguous and leaves them little wiggle room.

    https://spreadprivacy.com/why-use-d...
    https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

    Google already have a bad image when it comes to privacy.
  • 1
    @F1973 Few yrs. back, I have to use "!g" very often, but now ddg is improved, so I rarely have to use any other search engine.
  • 0
    @littleKitty Yeah, right.

    Facebook also said they use data internally and all until Cambridge Analytica happened.

    All the best with Capitalism.
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    @F1973 fb got caught.

    ddg haven't been involved in such things till now. If they do some malpractise, sooner or later they will be exposed. they'll be in the news and being a small company, it'll be hard to get away from investigations and their own strict privacy policy. their reputation will go down fast.

    ddg provides an alternative.

    other search engines don't even have such clear privacy policies, also they r big giants, so easier for them to get away if they r caught.
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    @littleKitty no one ever got big by not doing anything illegal.

    Take my word with a pinch of salt and I am not advocating Google or belittling DDG.

    All I am saying is, this is not the right economic model in history to trust anyone.
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    @F1973 👍🏾
    shouldn't we support the alternatives?🤗 so there will be more different kind of search engines or other products. instead of having few at the top and then these big & powerful companies extend their business to control more things, trying to dominate the internet or whatever their area is.
  • 1
    @littleKitty Agreed.

    And in that case I'd use Bing or Yahoo. Still no go for DDG.

    Because Google, Bing and others are mentioning that they indeed are stealing your data. DDG denies it and maybe they might be stealing it.

    And I hate liars.
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