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@Root and other devs on devrant. If you are using opensuse tumbleweed kde or are planning to install it or are have installed it recently. Please do not try to install the nvidia drivers from the official nvidia repo. You will have a very large dependency hell.
Source :- Installled it today and tried to install the drivers from the official nvidia repo and got this dependency hell.

I am switching to Ubuntu now. If ubuntu has any of the same problems I will go back to windows and leaving linux.

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    Also dont try to add the kde repo to solve the errors. The repo itself has a shit ton of file conflicts and saying yes to the prompt to overwrite that caused some errors and another dependency hell.
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    I love how Root is the new Alice and how communities evolve for and by themselves.
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    Dunno how you've been having such issues, I've been running the latest drivers on freakin CentOS 7 and it works just fine.
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    @F1973 what happend to Alice? Just remember it was a long time ago since she last posted or commented
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    @F1973 Root always was an important figure even when Alice was active

    (Anonymous oldfag)
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    @matt-jd Ugh.. long story..

    @iiii I never denied and I still believe everyone here is equal and significant.
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    @matt-jd long story short: she decided this community is no longer suitable for her to stay.
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    Nvidia on Linux is often... Not the greatest

    Is it a laptop? If so does it run the god awful Optimus chip?
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    @iiii sadly, but communities develop, change and move forward. I have some recollection of it but a similar thing also happend with another user so not too long time ago so it's all muddled up in the ol' memory Bank
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    @RememberMe Well I cannot install centos 8 because the iso is over 8 gb and I dont have any usb with capacity higher than 8 gb. I cannot use the net iso image because I have very new hardware. I have the ryzen 4000 laptop api so I have to install in text mode and I haven't been able to figure out how to connect to wifi
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    @LotsOfCaffeine Yes it is a laptop. Optimus probably yes. Haven't tried that out because bumblebee was buggy.
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    @AkshayTolwani hmm I'm not sure if Optimus is a thing for an AMD CPU + NVidia GPU
    you could try to look at what devices glxinfo or lspci list, if it's only one you're in luck, if not things might be a little hard...
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    @AkshayTolwani I'm surprised the official iso is that big, can't imagine it actually. Never tried 8 since the equipment I work with specifically needs RHEL/CentOS 7 and absolutely refuses to work with anything else.

    imo Fedora/CentOS/RHEL, Manjaro, and Ubuntu (not Debian somehow) have been the best experiences for me drivers wise. Fedora and Manjaro for new hardware because of fast kernel updates.

    Edit: missed that you already mentioned net install, I should sleep.
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    @RememberMe On fedora they didn't work well. Negativo drivers worked once but there was screen flickers and I was not able to use nvidia settings and rpmfusion nvidia setting also did not work. Manjaro worked but I could not convert some packages I wanted to arch ones. RHEL iso is also 8 GB. There is a 7.9 bet iso of 6 gb. Pop os nvidia version gets stuck on firmware update daemon even with secure boot disabled. I will try centos 7 and compile the linux kernel for the amdgpu stuff. Let's hope centos works or I will be using manjaro and mostly windows 10
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    @LotsOfCaffeine According to some blog posts which tests optimus with lspci | grep 3D my GPU does not have optimus though. Still my card does come in the optimus cards list by nvidia. I have a mobile gtx 1650
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    @AkshayTolwani I think Optimus is an intel cpu only thing
    If you don't have it the normal (proprietary) drivers *should* work

    What exact issues are you running into?
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    @LotsOfCaffeine Bumblebee was saying that the bumblebee daemon was not running even though according to systemctl the service was running
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    @AkshayTolwani I thought you didn't have Optimus? If so you shouldn't need bumblebee
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    @LotsOfCaffeine Oh I didn't know that I didn't need bumblebee.
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    @RememberMe Sorry I was actually downloading the everything iso whichbis ofcourse larger
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    @RememberMe How did you install the drivers on centos. I have gotten centos installed
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    @F1973 Communities that push for reputation based answers seem annoying. Lots of people use tech and there is no reason to find a singular person and badger them. If a user wants to weigh in then cool. However that user isn’t your IT department and adding the expectation that they be a dedicated resource detracts from the fun “pick your favourite participation” side of a community.
    I have been that person too many times.
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    @irene what's your point?
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    @F1973 Root root root root root ... root root root... hey root. Hey root weigh in here.
    DevRant is not an IM client. Paging a user isn’t an evolving community because community doesn’t come from a singular user.
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    @irene I never said that based on single user. Anyway.. why this is even a topic of discussion to be dragged?
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    @irene It really is kind of annoying.

    In response to the thread: I still haven’t set up my personal computer again. I just don’t have the time. 🙁
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    @Root I have been the one paged in many occasions at work. Occasionally I have replies with “I’m not a SME for this. Is there someone else that can build the skills to be competent?“
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    @Root Okay no problem. We can mess with nvidia stuff later
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    I'm keen on a laptop with a 4800H and integrated graphics only. Needs less power and doesn't run into Nvidia problems. If only AMD could actually ship enough units - they're completely drowning in demand.
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    @Fast-Nop If you finally find one there will be some other tragic flaw. I have played the hardware waiting game many times.

    That would be a perfect system! They release it with a lowres screen, or crappy trackpad, or weird keyboard, or flimsy chassis. Oh kill me now.
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    @irene Well I would even buy the predecessor with a 3500H, but in the series I'm eyeing, that comes with a single memory slot. Designing a board for an APU without dual channel is so stupid that I won't buy that.
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    I miss when LetMeCode was "the" personality on dR because it didn't feel like a bunch of male devs simping over attention from a female. Maybe I'm just dramatic.

    @irene did you get more tags with a female avatar?

    The rule should really only be to tag when they should be part of the discussion. Never "hey, look at this!". This is a social network. They are on the app to "look at this", they will get here eventually. If they don't, that's just how it goes sometimes.

    Tag if the person is essential to the conversation, has unique or expert advice on the subject, or any other direct relevance to the topic at hand. If you tag just to get your bullshit post more attention, then fuck you.
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    @Fast-Nop Well there is no such laptop like that. The closes you are gonna get is a laptop with the u variant of it. If you want that processor just get the model with the cheapest gtaphics card which is the 1650. You should get the omen 15 if available
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    Update :- Manjaro works. Nvidia driver install works without issue on first few boots. Screen flicker starts after I disabled Consistent Network Device Naming for maya licensing. It is kinda common and I fixed it via a manjaro forum post. Got maya working from the aur. Also updated the licensing to fix some bugs via doing some bad practice stuff.

    Wondering what bad practice I did. I got the rpms, installed rpm via the repo which is not intended for installing and then looked at the docs and installed the rpms in order in manjaro with rpm via the --nodeps flag.
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    @AkshayTolwani Yeah you're right, that was the 3500U, and the associated Schenker laptop is nice except for the memory misdesign. That's why I'm after the upcoming ones.

    And no, without graphics card, just with a 4800H. Tongfang (who supplies lots of laptop manufacturers) is the only board manufacturer who has the brains to launch a laptop with APU that actually uses the APU like intended.

    I won't buy an APU laptop with a discrete graphics card because that's stupid HW design.
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    @Fast-Nop Kinda good news. I found a laptop that suits your requirements. But it is not from a very big OEM and I dont know if they deliver this to your country

    https://pcspecialist.co.uk/notebook...
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    @Fast-Nop might want to wait for Tiger Lake, apparently it's actually decent.
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    @RememberMe You are correct I came to know of a tiger lake laptop review posted by dave2d a few hours ago
    Link :- https://youtu.be/2vaVH0SJa3s

    I know that Dave did mention that it is a 4 core system but when tiger lake launches intel will surely launch a 8 core cpu
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    @AkshayTolwani I bet that there is a Tongfang board inside. Also, it isn't in stock right now just like anywhere else.

    @RememberMe I don't want an Intel CPU because they usually don't have the price-value relation that AMD offers.

    However, I hope that this move forces AMD to revise their lineup. The 4x00 APUs have improved the CPU performance over the 3x00G (mostly by doubling the cores). The GPU is clocked higher, but unfortunately with fewer units so that it's a wash.

    Also, I know that the Vega IGPs run nicely with Linux right now while this remains to be seen with Intel's newest shot. Even if that improves, I'm in for an LTS 20 distro so that Intel's timing is unfortunate.
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    @Fast-Nop if it's one thing Intel's good at, it's Linux drivers. They usually just work.

    Intel should be pricing tiger lake competitively with AMD's products, shouldn't be a problem there. Also LTS distros get kernel upgrades too. Also buying a new machine to stick to LTS20 seems like a weird decision to me, but hey you do you.
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    @RememberMe Right now, even the Windows drivers for Tiger Lake don't work properly, as seen in the preliminary tests. Linux drivers will have less prio for sure, and I don't expect fully stable operation under Linux before end of Q1 2021.

    Probably earlier for bleeding edge distros, but I won't combine bleeding edge HW with bleeding edge SW. Plus that I'd never buy HW under the assumption that the required SW will get better later.

    And, what? LTS 20 in 2020, makes sense to me. But yeah, I've checked, and the relevant changes are WIP in the 5.7 kernel line which should arrive also in LTS 20 distros. But RN, I'm on 5.4 so that Tiger Lake wouldn't be the best choice.
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    @Fast-Nop Well you can wait they will arive this month. So you can wait. Also amd drivers do not play very nicely if you have a older kernel. I have faced problems with my amd apu with kernel 5.6 but it was better in 5.7 and nearly no issues with kernel 5.8 Amd drivers did work in 5.6 on fedora but starting charging the laptop or inactive the touchpad stopped working and the screen locker was broken.
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    @AkshayTolwani Which APU do you have?

    Because after a bit more digging, I've seen that the 4800H also requires kernel 5.7. I had mistakenly thought that Vega was Vega so that a kernel supporting the 3x00 APUs would also work with the 4x00 ones.

    Now that's a bummer for me because it means I can't buy a 4800H anytime soon because Raven Ridge 2400G had a particularly bad start under Linux, and it never became really good.

    Given that the 5x00 APUs will come early next year, this might mean that AMD could pull off driver dev resources before the 4x00 drivers are really mature. Just like it seems they did with the 2x00.
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    @Fast-Nop I have the 4800h
    Device name :- Asus TUF A15
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