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Folks, Telegram or Signal?

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    Telepathy
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    Signal. For me it is the proper E2E encryption, it beeing enabled by default and for group chats.

    But I prefer Threema because of their business model (pay 4€ once) and the ability to use it w/o a phone number.
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    getsession.org
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    It's like condom vs pulling out early.
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    I feel like it is all just a game of playing locked in from one to the next...
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    None are perfect, but definitely Signal over Telegram.
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    Signal, E2E by default
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    Whispering
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    Meet people ... Ohh wait 🤬
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    Signal. Telegram has a history of blocking access based on government sanction. Signal can do no such thing.
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    Carrier pigeon
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    Signal if you want security and reliability. Telegram if you want to think you have these things but care about UX more.
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    signal
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    @Root Beautifully put.
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    Google pay
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    @Root what you say is all popular and stuff but how come Signal is more secure and more reliable if it still can’t work without knowing your phone number? That’s just WhatsApp without Facebook.

    Telegram has everything Signal has and many more, including secret chats and p2p calls stuff.
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    Element(?)
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    Why not Both? Telegram is much more than just a messenger, Signal has to be there because of the "trend"
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    @theabbie Signal is not just there because of a "trend". There are two very different security/privacy stories for both apps.
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    @junon Hadn't Elon Musk tweeted about it, people would not be so crazy, we, as devs knew it from before, but, the trend is mainly because of Elon Musk.
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    @theabbie Lol, no. Signal was very widely used outside the dev circle. In fact US politicians use it primarily now. It's also known quite well here in Germany. Anecdotally, most of my family is on it.

    All of this way before Elon said anything about it.
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    @junon Then this question is senseless, There is no need to use only one, If you used Telegram till now, you can keep using it, You can have Signal too as it will gain users now.
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    @kiki You’re right about the phone number bit; that has always annoyed me. They are adding a different signup mechanism which I’m eagerly awaiting as I do not like sharing my phone number. Too many creeps out there.

    But Signal is end to end encrypted by default and is open source, so there is no requirement of trust involved there. Not so with Telegram.

    Signal does seem to have some serverside caching of messages, though, to allow receiving on multiple clients, so it relies upon their server. Or at least it did? I haven’t used the pc client in a year or more due to bugs. But this could still be implemented with zero knowledge apart from the required sender/receiver/timestamp/size metadata. And everything is negotiated and encrypted/decrypted on device, so it’s not like their server could read the messages anyway.
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    @theabbie It’s still better to switch to the more secure service. That would also tell the Telegram devs they need to improve their service if they want it to stay alive.

    Vote for quality with your usage :)
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    @Root look at session as I mentioned above :)
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    @taigrr Neat! I’ll give it a look :)
    Thanks for sharing!
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    @Root Telegram hasn't updated their policy, Whatsapp has, People are now suddenly crazy about privacy, We can use both Telegram and Signal, as, communication is the ultimate motive.
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    @Root Nothing, the question says to choose one, which isn't necessary, you can use both, Telegram offers much more but is not the most secure, so, it's upto what you ultimately want.
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    @theabbie
    Here I see security as the most important. If people chose Signal because of its improved privacy and security, it would encourage the other messengers to improve — even if only a little.

    I honestly see Telegram as easy to compromise, and therefore a risk of already being compromised.
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    XMPP of course.
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    As for privacy reasons use the Signal.
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