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Haxk20
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*Haxk20 "rant"*
Its been around a year or even more since i switched to Gentoo from Arch.

Dont regret a thing. Made my experience of using my system and working better and faster.

Dont try it just because you want to be part of some gentoo gang or whatever. Its a system. Its a tool. Not some badge you wear. And this tool is a tool you never knew you needed. Takes time to set it up. But once you do. You dont need to reinstall nearly ever. And it will take care of you if you do the same sometimes.

Advice i wish i had when i went into this: Read the news. If you have your config and you get a ton of conflicts. Best chances are that it will be there with explanation how to resolve it all.

There is ofc FAR more i could say. But i doubt anyone wants to hear me talking for entire char limit about the experience.. Tho if people want it i can *shrug*. Its been mostly positive either way.

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  • 7
    This rant is a yearly 𝘐 𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘈𝘳𝘀𝘩 notification.
  • 3
    @electrineer no i dont :P
  • 1
    @Haxk20 crap, I read it wrong. Then I don't know what this is.
  • 2
    I've tried using Gentoo, I've gone into it every time with the goal of bettering my understanding of how OS/HW interworking happens, as well as optimizing the OS to my system, but every time it commits seppuku on itself as soon as I do the very first upgrade.
  • 3
    Properly setting up Gentoo is well worth your time.
    The amount I've learned about my machines and computers in general from using Gentoo is second to none.

    You may want to look into configuring portage to use distCC if you're on a laptop tho. :-)
  • 2
    @lotd Dont need distcc. And im well aware. Thus the "rant" about me liking it so much. I got it setup the way i like it for months now. Just amazing
  • 1
    I currently use Arch, and the ability to just issue a command and have applications downloaded even in binary form so I can launch them in 5 minutes saved my ass several times. Is this something I can configure Gentoo to support with reasonable effort?
  • 0
    I know it's focused on sources, but does it reject binary distribution or is it just not the preferred way?
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    Used gentoo. Went to arch instead. The whole compilation thing is a waste of resources for no gain.
  • 0
    @iiii They are gains. Massive ones in some cases. But it completely depends on your use case. I ran my Arch linux building things from git either way so it makes sense for me.
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    @lbfalvy you can configure it to be only in binary form. But thats completely breaking the gentoo basically. Its biggest power is that you build the things yourself. And have complete power over it :)
  • 1
    @Haxk20 did you really compare them? The time when compilation for your specific hardware made any sense is long gone.
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    @Haxk20 @iiii there's also Sabayon if binary Gentoo is your thing :-)

    There's a bit performance gain though it's not that much nowadays.
    The real gain is in the customisability while retaining reproducibility..

    Recompiling isn't really that slow from my experience..
    Only the first build or subsequent clean builds.
    Especially with parallel portage, CCache & proper make opts :-)
    Just stay away from over optimising cflags and fruity fun loops :p
  • 0
    @lotd but -o3 all the things and link time optimizations (ofc just kidding on -O3. Thats a cursed flag if you want broken system)
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    @lotd how is Gentoo any better at reproducibility than Arch or any other distro ?
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    @StackSmasher123 you can almost unattended build your entire world from make.conf and ebuild files with portage.

    It's really not much more than partition your disk, mount partitions, extract stage3, to root, chroot in and let portage build your world. I tend to lazy out with genkernel.
    Finally, install efi entry / bootloader.
    Quite trivial once you get the hang of it and in similar environments it's simple enough to script.
    Might even be able to orchestrate through like pxe boot.
    Haven't tried tho :-)
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