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kunashe21133yThe whole living room situation is not good. Next time do not accept any intermediaries between you and the client.
It only makes sense to have a boss or PM if they are paying well above average for the privilege to manage you. Otherwise, you may be better off working for yourself.
I don't know why you get into that situation. If my boss aren't paying me, then I assume that I am no longer working for him. So I reject any call from your BOSS client.
I finally clicked after this situation.. I guess I had all too much faith in humanity.
It was mainly the fact I was litterally the only employee who will make him money. From my personal point of view, it makes no sense to screw over the person who basically runs your business... but yeah. Solo it is now, just not going to be easy at all :(
You should have done one thing when he stopped paying you:
"Fuck this shit, I'm outta here!!!"
yzhea22613yand tell your ex-boss client that you are not working for your ex-boss any more, so basically, that means you don't have any responsibilities whatsoever with that project anymore.
emanuelef193yJust get away of this situation and never answer them again! Put a lawyer instead between you and your boss who still has to pay you the rest of the money.
And then forget about every single stupid person who does not care of you, life is too short to waste time.
eybro5553yPlease please please just blacklist that clients email. Though calling it you client would be wrong as they aren't paying you.
If you feel like being a good person you could send a farewell email with a summary and/or the credentials for her services and let her "pro" friend take over. Not your mess.
bioDan55463yYou are out of your mind by leaving the job and still helping the client despite the the way she treats you.
Hope good karma will be on its way to you
SSDD50223yI really hate to say this because I can tell you're really upset - but you brought this on yourself.
Working for minimum wage... working for free.....
If you want others to respect you, you have to respect yourself.
Ghosty2963yI have to agree with @GigaMick - you braught this upon yourself. Of course, it sounds like you are not experienced in dealing with assholes and this might be a good "real life" experience for you, if only you will manage to not burn out.
But first things first - give all access to that "friend", cut yourself out immediately and dot do as single thing, no matter how small or easy, out of the goodness of your heart. Tell the client that you are done, unless you see the money. And drastically increase your rate. No more minimum wage. Lawyer up and at least try to beat that two monts salary out of your EX-boss.
And then have fun doing what you're doing.
zfor15493yYou are a developer. You are giving valuable time of your life to someone (client, company, whatever). That time you'll never get back. Don't give it to someone who doesn't value it enough.
Sometimes you might do it from the goodness of your heart. For free. But not for 8 fucking months. I know it's hard to leave someone in shit, but YOU have to be your no. 1 priority!
brahn16563yTime for the call of the contractors to your ex boss: "Fuck you! Pay me!"
And a "I don't work for you, call the bastard or offer me a contract with a very large number on it." to the client.
Then sit down with a calculator and a database of salaries and figure out given your experience EXACTLY how much money your are worth, then never again write code, answer customer calls, or for that matter get out of bed for less!
YOU are a PROFESSIONAL, your time is VALUABLE! Act like it, and life tends to get a lot less complicated!
(For reference I'm a junior dev and I don't get out of bed for less than 50 USD, and I don't leave the house for less than 100 USD).
This whole thing is kinda your fault too. If you work with an intermediary, it's his problem that he didn't get paid. If you didn't get paid - you stop working and sue maybe.
Ok, you didn't do that. After the intermediary has disappeared, the client is not your problem. Unless the client pays you, and you agree to work (which she must politely ask, because you didn't have an agreement with her before). The project is not yours if you're outsourcing, so if the client wants you to pass on the project to someone else, and pays for it, you DO that. It's her right, her risk, her everything.
If you follow these simple rules, you might actually even earn some money. And it surely reduces stress to a near zero.
Pretty much resolved now. Just thought I'd humour you guys though. "I think we need ftp access, my friend said you cant update the files on github" 😂 good luck with the project "client".