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inaba45897y@MaxDeepfield no more forced updates and a much nicer development environment and security
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bahua128037yThe most important quality a dev machine can have, in my opinion, is flexibility, and Linux has that in spades.
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there is nothing i can do in linux and cant in windows. also windows has built in linux. chessmate!
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bahua128037y@MaxDeepfield
None of the following things(which I do all the time), which are just a small sample, are possible in Windows.
Update your system(ie: apt update && apt -y upgrade && apt -y autoremove && apt clean && init 6) and be ready to use it again in under 5 minutes. Bonus points for not having to wait to use your system while it updates.
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Run a powerful server without expending system resources on a GUI.
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Natively run coreutils on a powerful, flexible command line, without connecting to a different machine to do it, and without running a software-burdened compatibility layer(cygwin/ubuntu services).
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@MaxDeepfield Alright so what if I want to change my windows (presuming for a second I'd run windows since I'd never do that in my entire fucking life) desktop appearance without third party tools or am required to check the operating systems security by reviewing the source code, how'd I do that in windows?
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@linuxxx why change appearance? how do you change it in linux without installing additional desktop environment?
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bahua128037y@MaxDeepfield
People change the appearance because they WANT to change it. Is there something wrong with that? -
@MaxDeepfield KDE and Gnome both have build in tools. Next to that, at least Gnome is styled using CSS and JavaScript so all you have to do is rewrite it till you like it how it looks :)
KDE is way bigger as for customization, you can nearly customize anything with default built-in tools and that's why I'm running KDE on all my personal desktops and my work laptop! -
bahua128037y@MaxDeepfield
I'm not seeing how to accomplish any of the examples I listed, by using windows server core. It appears to still depend on MS-branded GUI tools, and the extremely stunted and inflexible powershell. -
@bahua whatever, i use ubuntu for servers. this is not about why windows better. this is why linux sucks on desktop.
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@MaxDeepfield Not anymore since I've got a full-time job and manage 20-30 servers in my free time plus developing my own services, running a blog and still trying to manage a social life, friends and family. Also, being the biggest devRanter, although I love it, consumes energy and time :)
Used to write my own themes though, yes. Never published then but spent ages on customizing everything exactly to my needs.
In all honestly, why, according to you, does Linux sucks on desktop? -
@linuxxx it just cant do things done quickly. i tried every de in all the distros. dependency hell. packagers cant install multiple apps same time. sudo is just root but long version. impossible to do daytime routines without writing magic essay in terminal. weird file system dir structure. all the ui is a like "whatever we will put it here". as long as it is low level verbose meaning - same time it lags, it hangs and dont tell what happens (macos have same problem). and... guess what... there is no software i need. starting with multimedia studios ending with games. any suggestion for desktop linux that just works out of the box without dancing around?
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and yes i compiled my own gentoo. and pacman'd arch variations. no. this is not what i call workstation. for people who throws away mouse and work vim'ing configs i can say you dont need desktop os. but they like "oh look at my such pretty cpu ram usage widgets on backgound!". what?
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@MaxDeepfield Suggestions... Idk really since I've worked with gnome, xfce, kde, cinnamon, budgie and I could go on for a while. I've been working with Linux since I was 14-15 and I'm approaching the 23.
Sudo is Super User DO, it's not root, it's way of executing root commands as a general user.
Packagers can't install multiple apps at once - true. But you can select multiple packages which will all be installed after another or just type them all in the commandline.
Dependency hell... it has happened to me but always quickly resolved through just a few commands or clicks.
Define weird file system structure? Because this is quite consistent with every Linux based system.
For the record, my (highly a-technical) parents and sister have been using various Linux systems for the past 8 years and they love it :)
Also for the record, I'm not trying to invalidate your issues. Maybe you're running incompatible hardware or something?
I don't game anymore but used to do it on Linux and as for multimedia studios, what would you like to have exactly? -
@MaxDeepfield I'm using KDE at the moment, both personal and at work and it works great without any tweaks.
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@linuxxx
and here we go. you keep searching for right desktop.
ableton live 10 has no alternatives. also as adobe after effects.
my hw is fine. -
bahua128037yI haven't experienced, "dependency hell" since I used redhat(not rhel) 5.2 in the '90s. Since then, every distro I've used has had a powerful package manager than resolves dependencies automatically. So on any major distro you can just install a package and it'll figure it all out without trouble.
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inaba45897yI don't think you should advocate for windows on the basis of avoiding dependency hell tbh.
And no, you don't even have to use the terminal for Linux for your every day usage lmao
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