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I think you miss the fact that this is part of the game.
Most of open-world games do not have this because it doesn't matter. You quit the game during a mission ? Fine, but you will have to start the mission again.
Also it is pretty easy now even with checkpoints.
I remember games on the Sega master system that you don't have save points. You have to complete the whole game in one go. -
@Grumm it depends on the game, yes.
And sometimes, very rarely, it makes sense to have checkpoints rather than being able to save everywhere, any time.
But new games doing it for no good reason is what pisses me off.
I have played countless games in the past 3 decades and I know when it serves the game and when it‘s just used because old games of the same genre have used it.
It‘s trying to copy a fun game and not knowing what actually makes it fun, so you copy the wrong parts. -
I can give you some examples. All JRPGs usually had save points.
Final Fantasy 7 had this for sure.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake got rid of it because it was bad for the game.
Chained Echoes and Sea of Stars, both modern games which (successfully) try to capture the fun and beauty of old JRPGs, also got rid of it.
A few days ago I played another 2 modern JRPGs (Eiyuden Chronicles and Edge of Eternity) who want to achieve the same, but they use this stupid save point system.
Those are just examples for JRPG. There are other genres that got rid of it in modern times and others didn‘t.
I have no problem with checkpoints in missions in open world games, in general. -
@Lensflare in a highly modded version of Skyrim. Save scumming can corrupt your saves. So I avoid doing it for really stupid shit. It has something to do with scripting load or some shit.
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@Grumm level codes is a perfect example of a solution for a technical limitation.
The technical limitation is that you couldn’t persistently save anything on something like an NES.
when your code is a mess but everything work out in the end
When you keep getting +1s on a rant you posted a month ago.
Go big or go home.
Games which have a save point or checkpoint system: FUCK YOU!
This is a technical limitation that was present in game consoles in the 90s.
There is no fucking need to implement save points in games made today!
It serves no purpose other than to generate frustration for the player and make the player redo the same section of the game again and again when he fails.
Oh how much fun it is to repeat 20 minutes of tedious shit as a punishment because I fell into your cheap trap and died!
And even if I don‘t fail, I want to be able to stop the game at any time and continue later where I left off. Is that too much to ask?
I don‘t want to be forced to progress in the game until you decide that NOW, after 20 minutes is the time that I am allowed to quit playing.
This is a fucking design decision. Don’t make your design suck to imitate the games from the past that did it for technical reasons!
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