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@ethernetzero is not just the comments man. Is what people outside the industry says as well.
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@diegovincent I agree with you in that every community has elitist people. Stack Overflow, without looking any further, can be really frustrating considering the attitude and overzealousness of many people there.
I also think blunt or deadpan responses can be wrongly interpreted as being arrogant or rude. It's not really a matter of growing a thicker skin, but of understanding that sometimes we misinterpret what other people say, especially when the medium is a written one. Taking everything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt should be Internet 101 IMHO.
But yeah, I get what you say. I've met such people in the past, people that act like learning is not a lengthy process. You can't really do much to change that, but you can always look for nicer people to ask. Picking up from the Stack Overflow example, there's always devRant. 👈👈😉 -
@Frederick My guess is that @diegovincent took my comments from the JS joke he posted earlier as if I was somehow looking down on him for using the octal notation as the punchline, which was far from my intention.
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Mmmh... Look, I swear I don't wanna be rude or anything. I'm honestly telling you this to help you, especially if programming is the path you want to follow.
You still have to understand what being an IT guy/developer means. Not as in learning to code, or to use software. That's actually the easy part.
You'll surely meet lots of good and decent people in your career who will help you and laugh with you, who you'll be honored to work with and/or for...
...But you'll also meet *them*.
- other developers who'll believe to always be right
- language/software evangelists who only use one software/programming language who will sistematically shoot down everything else, as if it was a religious thing
- ignorant non-tech people who will try to "teach" you what you already know (and usually they have no idea of themselves), and will still believe to be better than you
- bosses with impossible deadlines and demands
And that's just the beginning! -
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Heck, it's easy to get frustrated this way. I've met so many developers who swear at their compilers, write offensive comments, punch the wall and so forth. It's easy to then get to behave dickishly with others, it's an easy mistake... And the arguments, *OH GOD* the silly, senseless arguments.
But we're not all like that. It's... Just hard to tell between sarcasm and eliteism at the beginning.
when your code is a mess but everything work out in the end
When you keep getting +1s on a rant you posted a month ago.
Go big or go home.
Reading through one of my posts I’ve realized how much ego programmers can actually have. Guys, some of you have already mastered or grasped more than just the foundations of the industry standard languages, as well as developed a very solid intuition behind some design patterns and a solid understanding of some frameworks and libraries, say NumPy, say React... we get it.
You don’t have to be such condescending assholes and be offended by some of the jokes we, programming beginners, make to release stress or just to have fun.
You already have some amazing developer and engineering skills. Do not ruin it with such a detrimental attitude; I make this post because I myself have made this mistake, and I still do to this day. But if what I’ve felt reading your comments is what non-programming people feel when around me, I wouldn’t be surprised if I found that some people hated me or just wanted to kill me.
I don’t know if this will get downvot’d or if more people think like this. But I needed to share this, even just as a reflection of my very own attitude.
Thank you for your time,
D.
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