You cant make this shit up XD

To be fair it has been around for longer. I have a programming magazine from 2011(early i believe) in which they were talking about it.

even still 5 years is asking a lot don't you think?

@AleCx04 although it is pretty hard to get professional experience in tech that hasn't proven itself. At most companies i've worked for the tech stack for new projects was selected based on:

1) What they were using already.
2) What the boss thought would be easy to recruit for
3) What some big company used for that product they released 10 years ago.

Kotlin only really became a serious consideration when google adopted it for Android. Now we have to use it for everything, the iOS and web frontend people were not super happy but atleast everyone uses the same language ....

@ItsNotMyFault i get you man. I liked the language, but just didn't want to set the time to learn it since i am not seeing it outside of mobile development as much as I would want to. Its a really powerful and expressive lang, hope it gets more traction soon.

@vlatkozelka https://github.com/JetBrains/...

@vlatkozelka because it is one thing to write kotlin, the other is to write entirely idiomatic kotlin for which by the time I wanted to do that I could already have done the solution using Java. I like the language and I know that being a jvm language we can use it whenever we would java, but just can't force myself to use it unless I see some wide ass adoption. If you were able to work with it full stack mode I envy you. I wish more of that were available where I am at. But it is all Java, all the way down, till you reach turtles.