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pk76
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It gets really irritating when I get turned down for jobs because, despite provable experience, I don't have a degree in computer science.

I can't go back to college because one of the colleges I was at lost my transcripts. And here, by law, the college you are applying to must have your entire transcript history before admitting you.

So I'm fucked and just hoping to find a company focused more on provable knowledge than a piece of paper. Yay.

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  • 2
    Do you have a portfolio?
  • 2
    @Santaclauze yup, up on GitHub, as well as one closed source project that I don't mind showing some snippets of during an interview.
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    @pk76 where is here? If its the states you can get them to let you start fresh after so many years. Still kinda sucks if you had classes that would count toward your degree already, but it's an option
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    @M1sf3t yeah it hasn't been long enough for that. So I'm on hold.
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    @pk76 that sucks dude. I ran into similar problem when I tried to go back. Not a lost transcript, just that they didn't want to count one from a juco because I had been suspended at the uni a couple years prior and no one mentioned having to go back there and properly withdraw before trying enroll somewhere else.

    I eventually bitched to the dean and head office enough that they finally accepted them but on the stipulation that I attend there x amount of hours to get my suspension officially lifted.

    I think the only reason that flew was because the whole area had gotten fucked up by a storm the semester I left and I was one of the many dumbasses that had dropped out and just paid back their grants and financial aid instead of asking about getting a hardship waiver.
  • 0
    You mean your school transcripts? Is there any way for you to get a new copy? Or perhaps try for an online CS degree via Coursera or something? (Idk if they ask for transcripts).
  • 0
    @RememberMe the school lost them, so no
  • 1
    @pk76 that honestly sounds like grounds for legal action, but how viable that is depends on your country, I guess (totally not viable over here for example).

    Online degrees could still be a thing though.

    Also, that really sucks man.
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    @RememberMe it is, and I did, but all that happened was they were fined for not adequately keeping records. I didn't get any of that money, the state did. And I didn't get an exception for my case to apply somewhere regardless.
  • 0
    @pk76 odds are while they were updating to a new electronic system that would prevent errors in data collection no less 🙄
  • 0
    @pk76 ouch. That seriously sucks.
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    @M1sf3t I don't think so in my case. I got the Dean arrested my last year there.
  • 1
    @pk76 oof.
    In any case, check this out, they have a "performance based admission in case you don't meet academic requirements" thing.
    https://coursera.org/degrees/...
  • 0
    @pk76 fucking right... you know all things considered you probably won that engagement 😂
  • 0
    @RememberMe how much weight do those programs really carry? I was debating on trying that or something like code wars if I couldn't find a frontend job with my portfolio.
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    @M1sf3t yeah it was a clusterfuck involving me reporting who I later found out was his nephew for property damage, then there being a made up story about me assaulting his son. I adamantly maintained if that's what had happened they should be contacting the police not going through the school system. Eventually when I realized things were going nowhere with the Dean, asserted my right to a council hearing, which he denied and then forged my signature on the admission of guilt forms. So he served jail time for forgery.

    Even if I'm right and this was revenge from the school, at least I can go back to college eventually. If I actually admitted guilt to that, guilty or not, I'd never be allowed in anywhere.
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    @M1sf3t depends on the program really, but some of them are equivalents to their on-site courses and don't even mention that it was an online thing. And this is probably better than no degree at all, if for some reason you can't go to college.

    Most of these aren't your usual online courses where you just stare at videos, you interact with profs, do assignments, meet other folks doing the course etc. (idk about this particular one, though)
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    @pk76 yea they're pretty firm about assault charges.
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    @RememberMe good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
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    @RememberMe yea, I was thinking cousera or pluralsite maybe? Whatever the one is that's attached to your S.O. profile.
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    @M1sf3t pluralsight definitely is. I have all my test scores linked there.
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    @pk76 those will probably be my next step then soon as I get something up to show for all my past efforts. I've done a bunch of udemy courses and random free tutorials but they're more or less clones of the original so I haven't been bothering to put them in a repo somewhere.
  • 3
    That reminds me of a story:

    I was interviewed for a help desk position where I would be assisting end users. I got fairly far into interviews when I was just dropped from communication.

    I eventually heard from a mutual who works in the company (who had gotten me the interview in the first place) that I had been turned down because of a lack of programming experience.

    For a help desk role.

    I feel you, man. I really do.
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    @RiderExMachina ugh, employers not really understanding what they are looking for is another irritating issue.
  • 0
    I have a computer science degree but not much experience, so when an employer wants to turn me down they say I'm not experienced enough. Maybe potential employers don't want to hire you for other reasons and use that as an excuse? Is your provable experience professional or personal projects?
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    @jsframework9000 both

    And employers weight things differently because they are... different. We've just been running into different employer mindsets probably due to different locations.

    My rant is about not finding the right fit for me, just as you haven't found the right fit for you.

    I can easily spin this around. If they are telling me it's because I don't have a degree, and you have a degree and are getting told something else, might that just be their excuse?
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    I know it does seem like that now, but rest assured - almost all companies go for experience over degrees.
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