Fuck the EU.

Their privacy laws fucking suck and don't even get me started on their braindead cookie law.

I think we should be able to make laws for them and not just them making laws for us.

First order of business is that by law all EU bureaucrats must have "I'm a fucking moron, punch me in the face to accept." tattooed to their foreheads in large bold letters with the rest of their face in intricate detail tattooed explaining what a fucking moron is so to educate their subjects.

So what's the problem? The cookie banners are somewhat annoying, but the rest is great from a consumer perspective.

@Scade I'm also waiting on other examples. Not saying everything they're doing is good (far from it), but still

@Scade The consume doesn't know what is or isn't good for them. They feel good because they feel like it's in their interest but it's not. It's getting them into the bad habit of clicking stuff without thinking and it takes away time and resources from devs that could be in their interests.

EU politicians are stupid. Cookies are just a mechanism under the hood and educating users about them doesn't particularly help nor the inefficiency of nagging them virtually every other site they go to. It might as well be called the Mrs Doyle law.

There are a tonne of ways to track users and focusing on the mechanism is stupid. Some red faced EU pencil pushers just got upset because their 12 year old cousin looked at their history after they left their laptops out unlocked and saw cookies associated with domains like bareassnakedbimbos.be.

The how isn't particularly important. The data is and that's where regs come in.

@Scade To give an example of how stupid it is, there's what a handful of browsers so why not make them show some notice once or not excessively and only have to develop the same thing a few times but instead they have to make some million websites implement this bloatware into their website that does nothing to truly enhance user experience nor truly enhance privacy.

If you want to get into the nitty gritty of actually trying to implement it properly, virtually no one does and it's not even clear if the tangled mess of the regulations make it possible to 100% do so.

Try downloading all the EU regulations yourself and see how long it takes to work out 100% what you need to do.

@RANTSMCPANTS You know that
- "The cookie law" is actually the pre-gpdr e-privacy directive 2002/58/ec which was intended to be replaced already and
- the gpdr is technology neutral and affects all tracking,
right?

Unfortunately many websites still only care about the first one or implement the gpdr only in respect of cookies, but this doesn't make the EU bad.

The cookie directive was meaningless but gdpr is something else.

It puts a strong focus on that any system should never store any information about a visitor they do not have to.

Considering all leaked info and the facebook scandal, not storing excessive data is a good thing.

It is also in the end better for business as you avoid a lot of stale and in inaccurate data.

@sbiewald @Voxera You are both right, unfortunately, some people in this thread don't want (or can't) understand the bigger picture.

Go Brexit yourselves.

@RANTSMCPANTS While the cookie walls could definitely be improved, I think the GDPR is great.

Hell, we wouldn't even (as a matter of speaking) need this fucking law if companies wouldn't track everyone into oblivion, properly secure their shit and give the consumers control over their goddamn data (and keep in mind that some companies collecting large amounts of data are involved in massive mass surveillance networks).

@RANTSMCPANTS But also, if your company actually gives a fuck about privacy and security and handles data and such in an ethical way... There's not much they have to do to become compliant.

Hell, we just had to do some official contract stuff with a few customers at my previous job, except for that, due to my employer giving many fucks about privacy and security, we were already entirely compliant.