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ytho10785y@SortOfTested tools like those just treat the symptoms, not the cause. I shouldn’t have to use a tool to block all this junk
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@molaram We already do silently agree to their ToS by using their site. If you so much as hit that enter key you fork over your rights to your data.
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@molaram the world of data privacy is pretty scary. That book that Snowden wrote that came out in September this past year was a pretty cool read, except for like the first quarter which was boring. Fairly revealing about really how much of your data is likely floating around between all the different entities out there in the world.
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@ytho
Pretell, how is denying sites ad revenue on a global basis while saving yourself the bandwidth not an eventual solution to the problem that is the generalized monetization strategy of the commercial internet? -
@molaram yeah, it's a system based completely on 'i trust you with my data' after your data hits their site. They can do anything they want with it and they can be pretty secretive about it until they're audited by a government agency. At which point they get to point the finger and go 'look at these guys they're spying on you'. Which redirects the attention from them to that company. Do I sound crazy? I sound crazy. Everytime I talk about this I feel crazy.
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ytho10785y@molaram I thought we were talking about general fixed position UI components... annoying headers, that cookies dialog... etc. advertisements are just a part of it. I’m talking about how did we get to a point where the majority of websites think it’s ok to do that and how as a community do we discourage it.
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@ytho
Sooooo, what are you talking about then? That's why people put most of this garbage out there.
Personally, I wash my produce before I eat it. The cost of water is low, but that's just my opinion. -
@molaram and in particular those videos that highjack your window and redirect you to spam sites. Reddit had it recently for a couple hours.
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I wonder how many people forget that websites/web-apps have that due to an European Regulation which dictates that such notification and information (e.g. Privacy/Cookie policy) Have to be present visible to new users.
It can be annoying for users and not always nice to implement as a dev but it's pretty much the law (at least in European countries) and the consequences can be severe (although I haven't seen anything on cookie/privacy popup related violations _yet_) especially as the fines are big. -
@molaram I agree the cookie popup thing is annoying and not helpful for a lot of people and that we, devs, should only have to worry about the policy pages being visible (e.g. referenced in the footer) but I disagree on the whole thing being useless and that users should just let sites do whatever the fuck they want with their data.
However, the policy pages and all the information and power GDPR gives to users is worth it imo. -
@molaram I never said that but okay.
Also GDPR does make a difference.
Have you tried making Access Requests in the pre-GDPR era vs now and managing/monitoring that in companies?
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With all the stupid fucking animated shit on websites: videos that popup, advertisements that flash (really?), things that popup if you move your mouse, headers that move weirdly relative to your scrolling, and more... Its like the 90s all over again with animated gifs, popups and other garbage. Is there some stupid web designer course saying animating shit is a good idea? The videos that move around are the worst. They totally fuck with my peripheral vision and make me want to rage quit the site.
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