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Parzi
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The PS3 has 2 OS types: GameOS (the XMB menu and what you use to play games) and OtherOS (anything else you'd wanna load, usually Linux.) There's a problem with this: There's a build of GDB meant for OtherOS. That's great, but I need some background debugger for GameOS. Why, oh fucking WHY, has no one made a debugger like this? We have the ability to reserve compute units (SPUs) and/or areas of RAM for code to continue running when something else is loaded, why the FUCK isn't there a game debugger???

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    Late in the lifecycle of the PS3 they released versions that did not support Linux. This effectively killed community interest in the platform.

    Your best bet is a PS3 devkit on eBay
    https://ebay.ie/sch/i.html/...
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    @SortOfTested ...yes, except they all do support it, they just removed the "Booot OtherOS" option from OFW. Yes, even SuperSlim models.

    Also, it didn't kill community interest, it pissed off the hackers, leading to full-on hack efforts for GameOS and eventually CFW.
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    @Parzi Actually, removing Linux support increased the number of attackers - namely by those who didn't really want to hack, just to get Linux running. That their efforts would also undermine the copy protection was a side effect. It's downright stupid to willingly increase the number of attackers on one's system.
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    > Why, oh fucking WHY, has no one made a debugger like this?

    Because Sony don't want you to cheat? A debugger with random memory access could allow you to do just that.
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    @SomeNone Of course Sony wouldn't, they have a console to protect and that'd make all the protection useless. I meant the homebrew community.

    And please google "Artemis PS3" for me. Cheats exist, but no debugger.
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    @Fast-Nop No, y'see, not many cared about it except people who couldn't do shit to it (like me!) until Linux was forcefully removed from consoles that had support before. fail0verflow's 2010 presentation put it best:
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    @Parzi That's not quite true. There were a lot of Linux PS3 e.g. in unis - not for gaming of course. That was the reason why Sony removed Linux support in the first place. They subsidised the PS3 hardware and made money on subsequent game sales. Only that these customers didn't buy games.
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    @Fast-Nop so you're saying someone announcing "hey there seems to be a hole in the linux shit on PS3" and Sony removing it by force very shortly after for everyone WASN'T a coincidence? Nor the fact that that sparked the full-force hacking scene for the system?

    https://youtu.be/4loZGYqaZ7I

    They sold real Cell servers, which fit a bit easier into a server rack than PS3s and had way more RAM than the PS3 as well. That's what the Cell was originally for, after all...
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