RabbitMQ's claim "RabbitMQ is the most widely deployed open source message broker."

They should amend that line to read "..unless you are trying to install on Windows, then you're screwed .ha ha ha ha"

Two hours fighting permissions, missing (and wrong) paths, having to modify *their* batch files, and still can't access the management UI (and yes, the mgmt plugin is enabled).

I hate this 'shaving the yak' exercise.

Why are you trying to install RabbitMQ on Windows? Are you including it in desktop software or do you have the misfortune of developing for Windows Server?

@homo-lorens > "Why are you trying to install RabbitMQ on Windows"

We're basically a windows only shop and our only Linux guy is too busy (and he doesn't want to manage+maintain any more software)

Got the RabbitMQ Docker container up and running in a few minutes, but that is another rant for why we can't use Docker in our production environment, but that would lead into a much longer rant for why we're using RabbitMQ.

@PaperTrail What the actual fuck? do you enjoy paying MS for the licences?
you might consider not using rabbit, but some sort of an insane MS alternative?

@magicMirror > "do you enjoy paying MS for the licences?"

Yes, we use and pay for Azure Service Bus. Its been over two years and we've never had to touch anything (it just works). The few linux servers on-prem have 4 full-time admins that seem to always have to turn knobs, change the lightbulbs, tighten the screws, etc.

@PaperTrail get your company to buy you a vps.
Windows is no place for shit like this.

Did you try it on the bash terminal or just in windows?
Curious.

@PaperTrail
You do realize - that those 4 admins have to justify why they are there?

Sys admin linux is simple enough with the correct monitoring solution. and ability to write scripts.

Y'all, stop trying to bash OP for their choice of platform. If it works for them and does the job, it's good. It's probably not their decision either (and even if it is, same logic).

@RememberMe It quite obviously doesn't do this job though.

it is a bitch on windows

The bigger issue here is that you can't run containers in production somehow...

Nothing wrong with using windows if that works for you, but it sounds like your infra is screwed. What's the point of having Linux guys around if they refuse to install any more services?!

@magicMirror > "You do realize - that those 4 admins have to justify why they are there?"

They juggle windows admin along with linux and obviously spend a lot more time/effort with Windows.

For us windows folks that may have to deploy something to linux (ex. update a job on a Splunk search head), then it breaks, you might as well give a caveman a blender and ask him to serve cocktails.

Me: "Oh crap, what did I do?"

Admin: "When you typed the command, did you end with the # or the $ sign?"

Me: "Um..neither? I just copied the command exactly as it was in the documentation"

Admin: "Oh no, even the quotes!"

Me: "Um...then why did the documentation have quotes?"

Admin: "Its a literal string, its different, and you prefix with a $ and end the verb command with the # to denote command to execute, then go to Bash and type ...<20 minutes later> and recompile the kernel. See...ezzee - pezzee"

OMG..just let me click a button!

@PaperTrail
.... not sure I follow .... srsly? why not let them handle that work when dealing with linux?
Linux Admins usualy automate stuff - so giving them that work will result in a 3 days of work to reduce a 5 minute action set to 2 seconds.

And as general rule of thumb: Allowing untrained mouse using monkey, to have root CLI access, is asking for trouble.

@magicMirror > ".... not sure I follow .... srsly?"

Sometimes de-evolves into internal politics, very TL;DR areas. Think of it as "That task is too trivial for my huge intellect...away with you peasant!", but the task still has to be done (boss doesn't care who does it)

I agree. Being an 'untrained mouse using monkey', you never give me root access.

@PaperTrail That's just a plain old asshole, nothing Linux-specific.

@PaperTrail Ok, now I got it.
Your company uses politics, not logic.

Same for me:
After 2 years of shit shoveling, I finally solved an issue that crashed multiple enviroments multiple times.
Solution? Not to use a cron - set to run every 30seconds. Just use an endless loop, with a 30sec sleep in it.