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Hazarth95213yIm still pretty sure that 99% of what people call "review bombing" is actual user feedback and not an organized event. It's so common these days for something to receive a lot of negative reviews and they just brush it off as "oh, I got review bombed, my content is actually good but 200k people organized just to get at me"
While the truth is probably more close to the community just honestly disliking a thing for a reason or another -
@Hazarth Holy shit, are you serious? Do you really think 99% of the reviews on Steam are legitimate feedback and only 1% are the spoiled, angry toddlers ranting nonsense? So Steam had to take measures to prevent what? “Coincidental massive negative user feedback”? I wasn’t referring to organized review bombing but since you brought it up, yeah that’s happening A LOT. One occasion I remember was firewatch. Piewdiepie’s retarded fans joined forces and review bombed the shit out of it. It’s also been proven that a single person can review bomb and bring a game’s rating down. Have a look at this old article man https://pcgamesn.com/history-of-ste...
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Hazarth95213y@Pelvis-Fresley I disagree with that view. Review bombing *implies it's organized and malicious... But I think it's arrogant at best, and purposefully misleading at worst. Remember, there's more than 7.5 billion people on Earth. Just PewDiePie alone has over 100mil subscribers... So how would you even distinguish between a group being maliciously organized VS a subset of 100mil people got suddenly informed of something they disagree with...
It would look the same, but one is a (almost impossibly) large group of people that discussed the attack and executed it and the other is just a simple wave of thousands of users with an actual opinion that just want to be heard. If you think the first one is more likely then I don't know what to tell you... but getting bad reviews from a few hundred thousands people when they are informed the company/person did something they disagree with is entirely in the realms of possibility since we have the internet. -
Hazarth95213y@Pelvis-Fresley Regarding the firewatch incident, I missed that drama and I'm glad I did. But if I'm to say my opinion in retrospect, the creator of Firewatch was in the wrong. DMCAs have a completely different purpose, he can't literally steal someones else's transformative work just because he disagrees with them politically... Either the media belongs to you (you can claim it) or it does not (you can't claim it)... I wouldn't post a bad review because of it, but that's mostly because there are better platforms to do that than Steam imo... But alas there aren't better places for it if the people really want to be heard. With movies and shows you have rotten tomatoes and review sites... but for game devs there's only steam
Do I agree with people using steam for this? No
Do I think it's review bombing thought? No
It's just a bunch of individuals that want to force their opinion on others same as e.g. the dev of Firewatch wanted to force his on them...
Two words: cancel culture -
Hazarth95213y@iiii
The work was transformative, an original piece. In this case you lose the ability to play for yourself (so not full original experience) but you gain additional value from the let's players commentary
So the original creator can't claim the work anymore. It's distinct enough that no confusion with the original would be made (no one in their right mind would think the dev himself is racist because a letsplayer said something). This means he can't use the DMCA claim. The new work (the video) is an original of pewdiepies and causes no harm or lost sales to the developer. This is opposite to say someone just uploading a song or a movie on youtube, where sales would actually be lost.
in short, I don't support DMCA abuse and the creator is a bit of a prick for doing that...
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So I was bored today and I decided to jump on the “shit on Facebook for being offline“ train by posting some PROGRAMMING memes on the rest of the available social media. I didn’t repost like everyone else and everything was fine until I made the mistake to post them on imgur as well. Apparently imgur is full of toxic, sad, arrogant pricks that will downvote the shit out of anything in an instant, without really understanding the posts. If you think reviews on the app store, google play or review bombings on steam are the definitions of stupidity and ignorance or that comments on Facebook are everything wrong with this world, then you haven’t tried posting on imgur.
Seriously, fuck imgur.
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