I can imagine the client throwing a dart at a calendar and saying "This will be the deadline!"

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    @Demolishun Yes! Cryptographically secure random deadline generator, and the accompanying random estimate generator. As a service, obvs.
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    @donkulator I was thinking more about a digital dartboard. It would be a technical challenge.
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    Throw first dart for the number.
    Throw the second dart for days/weeks/months.
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    From what I hear: some stakeholders are fully aware that they ask for arbitrary deadlines - but they do it intentionally to start a discussion - assuming that this will ”get the discussion going faster” and force the dev team to think about it and respond saying if it is not possible and why - ans suggest a new date
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    @jiraTicket or they do this to cover up the fact that they don‘t know what they are doing.
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    @Lensflare Yeah. I think in many cases it is willful ignorance. Or basically just a confession that the deadline dates do not really matter - it's just a part of bureaucracy that they need to insert some date into a Roadmap for their next presentation. And it doesn't really matter if that deadline date is missed. The presentation just has to be written.

    A classic example that comes to mind is whenever it's close to christmas a bunch of deadlines will be set to "week before christmas" - and they will not be updated even if conditions change.

    (But sometimes they are nice enough to say "Either we make the deadline or we don't. We'll see")
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    Atleast if clients say that, it kinda makes sense cause they r not aware of what goes into building it nd how much time it will really take.. it's worse when project managers do this! 😤
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