Who shares this struggle?

I have a 9-5 development job and I also have a personal web application I am building and plan to bring to production.

There are simply not enough hours in the day. I struggle to find enough time to work on my personal project while still performing well at the 9-5 and spending some time with my family so I'm not absent.

Agh I wish I could pause time for productivity 😂

I barely sleep for 5 hours these days

At least you don't live in a fucked up country .where you get almost 5 hrs for coding

@rookiepatty what country is that? And why 5 hours?

@manrock007 that sucks... Do you find its affecting you?

That's what I do with my app "Pollen Chat" while working full time for someone else.

@champion01 I'm slightly more tired in the office, but it's ok.. Gain some lose some. There's no other way

@manrock007 ya your right, I'm going to have to suck it up soon and do that. I treasure my 7-8 hours of sleep

Be careful! I used to be in the same situation as you. I fell into depression, and burned out in the 23rd year of my life. I stopped caring about other aspects of life, and after 2 months I was not able to find joy in anything. I'm okay now, and on the right track to recovery, but I had to pause my personal project.

@madkind depression due to working too much or not accomplishing what you wanted to?

Yep, used to work full time for someone else and did silly amounts of overtime. Remember like everyone you do have a limit and can burn out.

You're lucky. I have a 10-7 development job. No personal time at all

I'm exactly in this situation right now and doing the same thing as you. Except that the Web app I'm building is commercial. It is indeed quite hard

I most often fail due to trying to get too much done in the limited personal time. Breaking it down to tasks have helped, when the tasks are very concise.

Day one: Install PHP tools (joking)
Day two: Simple GUI mock
etc..

Accept the veery slow progress, and get there, eventually...

Exactly how I felt when trying to keep my startup afloat while taking in jobs. Did everything from the business development role to development. My partner was unable to satisfactory perform any technical or paperwork duties without my intervention. In the end I failed to deliver both and wasted 3 years if my life, destroying my reputation, friendship and trusts.I had to return the money and forced to sell off a lot of things. I created a lot of enemies and hate around me. I lost my house and had to move back to my parents. Now I'm a broke late 30 something building some unicorn apps hoping one will be successful and lift me out from the abyss I'm in. Strangely, I have never felt so relief and excited. I now have the freedom to be creative and building things I'm actually interested in. So don't feel bad, you are doing A Okay.

One sugesstion: NEVER give up on your personal projects. That will give you more energy to be productive on both ends. Without it you will run out of the juice and motivation to continue be so 'hyped' all the time therefore your will to do anything will drop dramatically.

I am thinking about leaving my full time job, to freelance and build apps. That's something I can do for next twenty years.

@rajat1saxena don't.. Unless you have a visible work pipeline for atleast a year while quitting.. It possible, but not easy.. Ensure the risk is worth executing and there's enough benefits in doing your own thing. Have seen a lot of people give up and get back to jobs..

@manrock007 I know it's too damn risky but the 9-5 is sucking the soul out of me and my personal projects takes a hell lot of time to complete. Additionally, I use two different stacks, for personal projects and at job.

@rajat1saxena I know.. That's what it always comes down to.. Soul vs stomach.. I've had this debate endlessly with my colleagues.. I'm not discouraging you btw.. Just want you to do a reality check before you commit to it..

I resigned my job 4 years ago to pursue things what I really interested in. Still there are ups and downs doing my own thing and earning money to feed my family. Inspite I lost many things like socializing, social status, guaranteed income I still believe I'll be successful one day.

oh you are so lucky just 9 to 5,i have to work 9 to 6 30, on Saturdays too for shit pay

all im the hopes of one day getting out this country into a developed country where employees are valued more

@liveCoder India?

@rajat1saxena if you're going to quit your 9-5 make sure you have an impressive portfolio to bring in business, if you have that you should be ok in a few months if you drop the job cold turkey. not really my recommendation but if you want to do it that way that's your best way. now as for my recommended way, make your portfolio, freelance accounts, and get some developer contacts. these three things should give you a steady work flow if done right but at this point it is no longer an 9-5 you work until the projects are finished. I have a client that has a design/development outsourcing company if you are full stack or a phone app developer I can point you his way to get you started on your contacts.

@jckimble please have a look at my portfolio here https://rajatstudio.com and see for yourself, if I am a good fit.
I am a full stack developer and an Android dev. Thanks.

@rajat1saxena you should be arne is more or less a broker, he gives you jobs and works out the pricing for a cut. this is the site he has http://giskebusiness.com looking at your portfolio he'll probably give you some work. he asked me a few months ago if I wanted to do an android project for $2500 I just was too busy at the time. if he asks who sent you you can tell him james from thorbis and he'll know

@rajat1saxena just don't quit your job yet, if he's impressed with your work and pricing you'll make a pretty good income stream from him but relying on one income stream is really bad for a freelancer

I think I'll have to rename myself old fart. When you're not at work, you should be doing something that has absolutely nothing to do with computers. It will make you a better person, better at your job, more creative, and you won't burn out anywhere near as fast. Learn to play the banjo or something.

@jabrwoky I certainly agree with you on this one.