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“Any application that can be written in JavaScript, will eventually be written in JavaScript.” — Jeff Atwood
Fast-forward 20 years, a plane crashes, they find and open the black box and in the flight logs they can see the cause clearly: ”undefined is not a function”.13 -
LONG RANT AHEAD!
In my workplace (dev company) I am the only dev using Linux on my workstation. I joined project XX, a senior dev onboarded me. Downloaded the code, built the source, launched the app,.. BAM - an exception in catalina.out. ORM framework failed to map something.
mvn clean && mvn install
same thing happens again. I address this incident to sr dev and response is "well.... it works on my machine and has worked for all other devs. It must be your environment issue. Prolly linux is to blame?" So I spend another hour trying to dig up the bug. Narrowed it down to a single datamodel with ORM mapping annotation looking somewhat off. Fixed it.
mvn clean && mvn install
the app now works perfectly. Apparently this bug has been in the codebase for years and Windows used to mask it somehow w/o throwing an exception. God knows what undefined behaviour was happening in the background...
Months fly by and I'm invited to join another project. Sounds really cool! I get accesses, checkout the code, build it (after crossing the hell of VPNs on Linux). Run component 1/4 -- all goocy. run component 2,3/4 -- looks perfect. Run component 4/4 -- BAM: LinkageError. Turns out there is something wrong with OSGi dependencies as ClassLoader attempts to load the same class twice, from 2 different sources. Coworkers with Windows and MACs have never seen this kind of exception and lead dev replies with "I think you should use a normal environment for work rather than playing with your Linux". Wtf... It's java. Every env is "normal env" for JVM! I do some digging. One day passes by.. second one.. third.. the weekend.. The next Friday comes and I still haven't succeeded to launch component #4. Eventually I give up (since I cannot charge a client for a week I spent trying to set up my env) and walk away from that project. Ever since this LinkageError was always in my mind, for some reason I could not let it go. It was driving me CRAZY! So half a year passes by and one of the project devs gets a new MB pro. 2 days later I get a PM: "umm.. were you the one who used to get LinkageError while starting component #4 up?". You guys have NO IDEA how happy his message made me. I mean... I was frickin HIGH: all smiling, singing, even dancing behind my desk!! Apparently the guy had the same problem I did. Except he was familiar with the project quite well. It took 3 more days for him to figure out what was wrong and fix it. And it indeed was an error in the project -- not my "abnormal Linux env"! And again for some hell knows what reason Windows was masking a mistake in the codebase and not popping an error where it must have popped. Linux on the other hand found the error and crashed the app immediatelly so the product would not be shipped with God knows what bugs...
I do not mean to bring up a flame war or smth, but It's obvious I've kind of saved 2 projects from "undefined magical behaviour" by just using Linux. I guess what I really wanted to say is that no matter how good dev you are, whether you are a sr, lead or chief dev, if your coworker (let it be another sr or a jr dev) says he gets an error and YOU cannot figure out what the heck is wrong, you should not blame the dev or an environment w/o knowing it for a fact. If something is not working - figure out the WHATs and WHYs first. Analyze, compare data to other envs,... Not only you will help a new guy to join your team but also you'll learn something new. And in some cases something crucial, e.g. a serious messup in the codebase.11 -
Teacher: Homework for next time is to make 2 web pages with three javascript.
* whole class is quiet *
Me: What's "three JavaScript"
T: undefined
M: Do you mean three files?
T: No, I mean three JavaScript.
M: Okay, so let's go with five CSS and twelve HTML as well then...
Please, go somewhere else when you can't explain your OWN HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT. Holy fuck.16 -
StackOverflow: let's marginalize your "problem" and focus on the real issue at hand, which is that line 4 doesn't conform to the language standards and thus will lead to undefined behavior on a single kind of 8-bit microcontroller made in 1984 that is no longer in use.5
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How to properly confuse an unqualified IT teacher:
Step 1: Go to https://windows93.net/
Step 2: Press F11
Step 3: undefined12 -
My resolution for this year is to stop hating javascript.
Error: cannot read property "year" from undefined.2 -
Vsauce has made all of its Mindfield content free on youtube...
Watched the episode about moral licensing
TL;DR; If you do something very good you tend to compensate and give yourself a free pass to do not so good
It happens to me in software when I accomplish something really fast, like a bumpy process that is undefined and in most cases should take X amount of time, but due to luck + experience + right mindset I get it done like 5 times faster...
I end up wasting the other parts of the time feeling good about myself and exploring google maps and writing rants here...4 -
Friend: dude, JavaScript seems awesome. It looks so easy and there aren't any annoying compiler errors like in Java
Me: I know it sounds cool in theory, but it sucks in practice, trust me
Friend: no way, dynamically typed languages are the future
*Friend installs node*
*Friend writes a simple script*
*Friend gets undefined errors because of a few typos and has a hard time debugging it*
Friend: JavaScript is retarded
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IF LIVES DEPEND ON A SYSTEM
1. Code review, collaboration, and knowledge sharing (each hour of code review saves 33 hours of maintenance)
2. TDD (40% — 80% reduction in production bug density)
3. Daily continuous integration (large code merges are a major source of bugs)
4. Minimize developer interruptions (an interrupted task takes twice as long and contains twice as many defects)
5. Linting (catches many typo and undefined variable bugs that static types could catch, as well as a host of stylistic issues that correlate with bug creation, such as accidentally assigning when you meant to compare)
6. Reduce complexity & improve modularity -- complex code is harder to understand, test, and maintain
-Eric Elliott12 -
"Errors? Won't happen to me!"
One of my first jobs was to finish and maintain a program, that was made by a guy who had a real genius image among others. Years later, people said "oh him, that smart guy."
I never met him, but that's what i heard.
However, he was not only smart, but it seems he was also very confident. That's what i deduct from his code.
He didn't use catch-blocks. They were all empty. Not even logged.
If errors appeared , it was not possible to see what happened and where and why. The program would continue it's execution and if following steps could not work, because there had been an unnoticed exception, it would just throw another unnoticed exception and at some point, end in an undefined state.5 -
I hate all of these rants about JavaScript being a terrible language.
In reality, it's one of the easiest languages to work with. This makes it easier for new programmers to write messy code, but is it the language's fault?
People get mad about the things that happen when you multiply "undefined" and a string...what do you expect?
You also have the freedom to choose from a variety of tools the community has created to solve existing problems. People just don't realize that they don't *have* to learn everything, you just learn as you need them.
Don't blame JavaScript for you bad programming, terrible type conversion needs, and great tooling.23 -
DevRant squad!!!1!1
@Alice aka Madame Pink
@AlexDeLarge aka Swearer Supreme
@linuxxx aka Privacy Knight
@jase aka Master of Clones
If i missed someone just tell me35 -
The single cuntiest error I ever had in one sentence:
Cannot read property 'undefined' of undefined.
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I drink hoping that one day I’ll invent something when I’m drunk bcz drunk me is smarter than sober me.
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Today I was wandering through the code of the project I work on. The project is on JS, turns out someone named an object key `undefined`. They had the wonderful idea since they didn't want to pass a key through on the side where the info stored in the object is used(or at least that's what I assume).
Look at the image. (not the actual implementation but you get it and it actually works if you want to try it)
👏🏼 I don't know who did it and I rather not git blame it, but pray to the 7 gods you never do something like that again while I'm around or you are going to be in need of prosthetic fingers to code again motherfucker.
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Programmer one-line horror stories? A few off the top of my head:
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
'Undefined' is not a function
Unit test failed: expected '0' but got '-1'
Connection to 'localhost:8080' has been lost
Malformed JSON string at col: 46,372. Expected '}'7 -
I’m a civil engineer working in IT and this is the view from my new office, watching the construction work every day and think did I take the right decision.
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- Find an old js project in your computer
- Try to start it
"Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'undefined' of undefined"
- Delete it -
Use profanity labelled variables... like the $penis I just used in my code... (makes coding fun, until u get "undefined variable: cannot find $penis on line 31")1
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Just got my masters degree in AI
Now it's time to relax and work on my old old projects that i left 😊12 -
So our university website was recently refurbished with new design. But fucking hell it's bad. Not only the whole website is full of bugs, the design choices are extremely poor.
Sometimes, when I open a course page, it opens a modal with undefined as it's title. And I have to click close button ten times to close the modal.
I can't even blame university. The guy was a former student and Uni probably trusted him. What a retard!5 -
I spent more than an hour trying trying to debug why two functions were always returning undefined. I even put in conditional breakpoints and executed the statements to confirm the logic was correct.
I forgot return.4 -
I finally built my own neural network model.
I did start this journey a long time ago. Maybe 2 or 3 years ago. My first ("undefined") rant :) was about it.
https://devrant.com/rants/800290/...
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Who the hell decided to put 'null' in JavaScript when there is already an 'undefined'
...😤😡...
Like one empty value isn't enough24 -
Oh PHP, I love your silly quirks ❤️
Error: Use of undefined constant JSON_THROW_ON_ERROR - assumed JSON_THROW_ON_ERROR (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP)2 -
C has too much undefined behaviour because the standards comittee was being lazy and slapped that on a lot of issues that ought to have been implementation defined instead.
The most ridiculous example for UB: An unmatched ' or " character is encountered on a logical source line during tokenization.
Like WTF, that should be a compile time error, and it's easy to detect.21 -
We should disable the “verify that you are a human” captcha for a day and see if aliens try to contact us via internet.3
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Damn, Natasha Bedingfield's Unwritten accurately describes the start of my workday coding sessions.
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I had a dream where I got a job at SpaceX. Long story short, rockets fell from the sky, people died, and Musk got really angry. I don't think I'll be applying at SpaceX anytime soon.2
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Actual production code:
function isEmpty(val) {
return typeof val === 'undefined'
|| val === undefined
|| !(val !== undefined);
}
I'm starting to think the "infinite monkeys" metaphor is not a metaphor...5 -
Me in the Gym 😃😉😀
weights = [12.5, 15, 17.5, 22.5]
sets = 0
while (sets <2):
for i in weights:
print(i)
print("Rest")
sets = sets + 1
And people say keep your work at office.
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I read this in stackoverflow today:
Welcome to every C/C++ programmers bestest friend: Undefined Behavior.
There is a lot that is not specified by the language standard, for a variety of reasons. This is one of them.
In general, whenever you encounter undefined behavior, anything might happen. The application may crash, it may freeze, it may eject your CD-ROM drive or make demons come out of your nose. It may format your harddrive or email all your porn to your grandmother.
source:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...1 -
Does anyone know an extension or library that helps determine if a co-worker is into me?
Or how to handle such inputs
I keep getting a fatal error: call to undefined function4 -
As à french developer, today I learned we can use accent in variable name.
Like let étude = undefined.
Why would use accent in variable name ? Huh ?
I wonder if I have to fire the guy who made me discover this.9 -
Was forced to do some work on Windows this week (CAD tools that runs only on Windows). I spent a few days just setting up the tools. There were quite a few things I realized I forgot about Windows (as compared to Linux).
1) Installation times are down right horrific. What exactly are the installer doing for 10 minutes?
2) .NET is a cluster fuck. Not even Microsofts repair tool can fix it, but rather just hangs. I ended up using another tool to nuke it and reinstall.
3) Windows binary installs are insanely huge, thus, takes forever to download.
4) The registry is a pointless database that must have been written in hell with the single intent of destroying users will to live. The sole existence of the registry is another proof that completely incompetent engineers designed Windows.
5) Rebooting is the only way to solve many problems. This is another sure sign of a fundamentally fucked up OS design.
6) What the heck is wrong with the GUIs designers? The control panel must be the worst design ever. There are so many levels to get to a particular setting I'm getting dizzy. Nothing gets better by the illogical organisation.
7) Windows networking. A perversion of the tcp/ip stack that makes it virtually impossible to understand a damn thing about the current network configuration. There are at least 3 different places that effects the settings.
8) Windows command prompt. Why did they even bother to leave it in? The interpreter is as intelligent as retarded donut. You can't do anything with it, except typing "exit" and Google for another solution.
8) Updates. Why does it takes hundreds of updates per month to keep that thing safe?
9) Despite all updates that is flying out of Redmond like confetti, it is still necessary to install antivirus to keep the damn thing safe. That cost extra money, and further cost you by degrading performance of your hardware.
10) Window performance. Software runs like it was swimming in molasses. The final stab in the back on your hardware investment, and pretty much sends performance on your hardware back a few hundred bucks more.
11) Closed source is evil. If something crash consistently, you might find a forum that address the issues you have. Otherwise you're out of luck. On the other hand, it might be for the better. I imagine reading the code for Windows can lead to severe depression.
I'm lucky to be a Linux dev, and should probably not complain too much... But really, Windows, go get yourself hit by a truck and die. I won't miss you.14 -
Reported a security bug in Chrome two years ago, got the response now -
Moral - even google products are fucked up.
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A customer was complaining that the twitter feed on their homepage was listing strange tweets containing curses. somehow a JavaScript variable was not assigned correctly and got a value of 'undefined'. because @undefined is an existing twitter handle the code did not crash and went on displaying the wrong tweets.2
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String nullabity check duel...
null, isEmpty(), "", " ", '', ' ', " null", boolean, NaN, undefined, isNullOrEmpty and finally try-catch
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Code comments #1: A way to document bad code that wasn't reduced to it's essentials and thus unreadable. Bad.
Code comments #2: A way to explain for non-programmers how the code works. Wrong place.
Code comments #3: Company policy. No one really knows why, but others do that, so we better do it to. The management sucks.
Code comments #4: Because some hip methodology/guru describes how to document code. After a few years, when the methodology has been (unofficially) forgotten, everyone still comments the code the same way. The old management sucked.
Code comments 5#: For insecure programmers who want to convince them self they understand the code they've written. Maybe apply at McDo?
Code comments #6: Some programmers are apparently paid by lines of code. Possibly understandable.
// Comments, anyone?8 -
I was done arguing with people about undefined and implementation defined behaviors and what the standard is. I had to make this after someone told "which standard book are you talking about? Which university teaches it?"
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Shamless rant towards the shamless Cursey dude. 😫
So whole day I have been trying to pass a variable from laravel blade view to vue2 component file. All in seperate files. I know that I have successfully passed 1 or 0 in same flow before. So I was following the same steps to pass my string variable. It kept giving me undefined. No google helped and I had been doing all kinds of stupid useless trials. All failed.
Because it is supposed to fail. 😐
I only learned it at the end of the day.5 -
Probably the first day I tried typescript, and got an undefined error in line undefined:undefined with an undefined code example3
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Since morning, I’ve used-
Facebook, Instagram,whats app
Google search, chrome, YouTube ,Gmail
iPhone, Apple Music, Apple podcasts
Netflix
Amazon video, kindle
Can’t believe how much our lives revolve around these giants! -
My No.1 interview question for UX developers:
What are the CSS default text and background colours?
The correct answer is: "undefined-on-undefined".
If your 1st thought was "black-on-white", you're the reason we can't have nice things.30 -
If everyone on devrant was in a bar fight, what would they do?
I would run around and get killed...117 -
Life of dev
birth();
while(alive()) {
....code();
....debug();
....insertRandomBugRant();
}
while(dead())
{
....ThereWasBugInMyCode();
}
Fatal error: Call to undefined function birth(); on line 11 -
I think javascript is a great language, but it has some really ugly parts.
For some reason, it really annoys me that JS developers are ok with things like
if (typeof something === "undefined")
I mean, comparing strings like that!3 -
The tons of undefined behaviour in C that ought to have been implementation defined instead, and increasingly sadistic compiler writers on the other side.
Like signed integer overflow that should just do what the underlying machine does, i.e. in practice, wrap around two's complement.
But the wierdest UB is when a C source code line has a non-matching ' or ". WTF, this should have been a compile time error!4 -
HEY!
JAVASCRIPT!
I wasted 3 hours on your this. self. null, undefined, + asynch functions, bullshit "features"...
AGAIN...
and your taking 8 seconds to compile and test each wild guess that I make until I finally console.log every single fucking variable in order to make sense of it all
so, as usual, FUCK YOU17 -
In the Agrarian Age, wealth originated from nature.
In the Industrial Age, wealth originated from machines.
In the Digital Age, wealth originates from information and knowledge.13 -
If got to do some bugfixing at work today.
Looking through code:
if (x !== undefined || x !== null){
I want the person who wrote this to wear the ugliest and scratchiest christmas sweater with "i write bad code" written on it15 -
Me: I hate Windows/PHP/Gradle builds/etc
Other devRanters: Did we just became friends?
Me: friends is undefined. Please go to StackOverflow for undefined error.
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I love javascript, but sometimes it's just an incredibly stupid language, such as when undefined variables get interpreted as string literal "undefined" when concatenating strings. I like it better how, for example, PHP handles undefined values, that nulls just turn into "". Better still: typed languages, where most stupid mistakes are caught already at compilation, instead of having to spend hours to track down where that mysterious "undefined" comes from. As I said, I love javascript - because it is easy to code, flexible and forgiving in many ways. But I hate it for the exact same reason, for being such a sloppy fluffy...thing, and a bugger to debug. If javascript would be an animal, it would be a cute and cuddly cat that you instantly find adorable, but it's actually quite fat and lazy, plus its fur is littered with ticks and other bugs.12
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I really dislike when people don't use braces { } on if/else statements.
If(almond.harvestStatus == undefined) almond.harvestMode=false
almond.dropdown = false.2 -
Someone else always have git log like this??
Or just me? 😂 ;-)
commit 6e71f545c3
Author: ShellAddicted
Date: Sat Sep 9 02undefined21 2017
it Works!!!
commit 6ac2c98bf
Author: ShellAddicted
Date: Sat Sep 9 01undefined47 2017
works more or less
commit 411b8e12
Author: ShellAddicted
Date: Sat Sep 9 00undefined00 2017
Initial state not working.
EDIT:
I just noticed that devrantron modified (bug) my rant (see the undefined in times)3 -
Ever wanted to have undefined behavior in Python? Do this in Python 2 (yes this was supposed to be a fibonacci number calculator with a limit but one of my classmates forgot the conversion just as seen below):
#Begin
def fib(n):
a,b=0,1
while a<n:
print a
a,b=b,a+b
fib(raw_input)
#End3 -
Today i spent one hour and half trying to understand why my ajax request was returning "undefined" instead of a json object. It turns out i had just to restart ionic because of some bug in the ts transpiler.
Fuck you typescript.6 -
RSpec:
Undefined method 'agent_authorization=' for #<Periodic::Payment:0x000000C0FFEE>
Rails Console:
> Periodic::Payment.last.agent_authorization = "PPD"
=> "PPD"
> puts "Hmmm."
=> "Hmmm."11 -
> Am writing code
> Life is good
> Add debugger keyword
> Script pauses
> Type in var name... Undefined.
> ...What?
> Check out local scope. It's there. What the fuck?
> Add console.log(myVariable)
> Refresh
> Logs variable no problem. Cool.
> Type in my var name
> Undefined
FFFUUUUUUU-7 -
God I hate JavaScript.
Why on earth would some variable * somthing.other (where somthing is undefined) result in 653957364??????17 -
My CTO uses an array instead of objectto keep list of items with random numerical keys. I told him you’re creating multiple unintended undefined members in between, he said: yeah that’s how silly JavaScript is :-|2
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My favorate bookmarklet (ES6 only):
javascript:(()=>{var b,c,a=document,f="onreadystatechange",h="https://rawgithub.com/smore-inc/...=(p,q)=>{p.readyState?p[f]=()=>{"loaded"!=p.readyState&&"complete"!=p.readyState||(p[f]=null,q&&q())}:p.onload=function(){q&&q()}},k=()=>{clippy.load("Clippy",p=>{$(".clippy").css("position","fixed"),$(".clippy").css("z-index",1e3),p.show(),p.moveTo(100,100)})},m=()=>{(c=a.createElement("script")).src=h+"clippy.js",a.body.appendChild(c);var p=a.createElement("link");p.rel="stylesheet",p.type="text/css",p.media="all",p.href=h+"clippy.css",a.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(p)};"undefined"==typeof jQuery?(b=a.createElement("script"),b.src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/...,j(b,()=>{m(),j(c,k)})):"undefined"==typeof clippy?(m(),j(c,k)):k()})();14 -
I must be a madman.
Trying to log in to appDynamics. enter account name, hit ENTER -- <...>/appdynamics.com/controller/undefined, 404: Page not found.
Go back, do that again -- same result
Go back, ctrl+F5, try again -- same result.
So in the end I did 17 or 19 back-retry attempts in a row and the last one DID log me in.
Peachy.
<F><U><C><K.<J><S>1 -
var myLove =0;
var myLife = 'you';
if(yourHeart =='Me'){
myLove =+1;
else {
myLife = null;
myLove = undefined;
}4 -
Why are some of my previous rants tagged with "undefined"? I definitely don't remember doing that 🤔2
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Most of my time coding in Javascript goes to handling null checks and fixing crashes caused due to missed null checks.
`"abc" is undefined` is an error which I must have seen more number of times than any other bug in console and even in real life.2 -
I’m just new here...
Don’t know why I made an account here, just to read a single post, but yeah...
I’m a big Pokémon fan by the way...8 -
VirusTotal's API could do with a make over.
Though it is quite nice actually, you're able to provide them with a hash of a file and (provided they've scanned it) VT is able to tell you what up to 60 different virus scanners thinks about the file (and how many scanners that has an opinion about it). Now if there's an error, like the file not having been scanned or the hash being incomplete, it give you some JSON back where there will be an error message that tells you the error and an error code of 0.. wait wh
Although since it's an API they also need give us plebs whose only got access to an API key that limits us to 4 requests pr minutes. Naturally when you try to do another request within a minute of your limit the response you get is absolutely nothing what so ever. "" Naturally.
And of course the same response should be given when the API key you provide isn't valid. Who needs errors amiright?
No wonder JSON.parse kept throwing exceptions
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Poll: I see a lot of Windows users here, naturally as it's the dominant OS. I do wonder how many of you dev's that would be willing to accept lower compensation in exchange for instead working in Linux?9
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I don't know how to tell but my love to JavaScript is undefined. I can't stop const sharing this information wherever i am.5
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I created an undefined rant. And it never received any attention. I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm a little surprised. Kinda cool. I could create entirely public but unnoticeable rants.
Kind of like my life
/s
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Access undefined as undefined....
Apple devs need a break. Xcode devs need to be sent to another planet -_-
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What paradoxes taught me.
Perhaps each time a paradox is encountered in mathematics, there is a useful distinction or mathematical tool hiding in plain sight, one that hasn't be discovered or utilized. For cursory evidence I give you: division by zero, the speed of an arrow at any point in flight, and calculus.
Maybe this isn't true for some paradoxes, or even most, but as time goes on I suspect people will discover it is more true than they might have thought.
Undefined behavior and results aren't nonsense: They look to me like golden seams to be explored for possible utility when approached from uncommon angles with uncommon problems.6 -
How to get your website reach out people with no advertisements!?
1. Once it's built, make another mock up by changing a few main highlighted words to "(null)" or undefined!
2. Then send the link to any person in the software development field, anonymously!
That person will take care of the rest!
Note: don't forget to change the mock up with the original after u have sent the link!4 -
When you check whether Carphone Warehouse stocks the phone you want to buy. Well, bloody undefined! 😳 Some other weird shit is going on with this UI. 🤷♂️
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I woke up this morning thinking "what if Trovalds doesn't GPL-released Linux" and i got like all:
Edit:
*Shooting stars music
:v
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I don't know why I'm doing this but when I go to websites that aren't mine and found that there's a bug in their site or system, I kinda happily report these bugs and issues to their email with screenshots, findings and steps to reproduce the bug.
Just recently, I just went to a site and found a peculiar timeout error, eventhough it was less than a second to respond back. Only to find that there was an undefined JavaScript variable in their code.
Is there a bug bounty for fixing code?6 -
I feel retarded. Just spent a good solid 15 minutes trying to figure out what was wrong:
<input id="#example" type="text">
let data = $('#example').val()
And I was sending data to the backend and wondering why it always came across as undefined...6 -
Here’s a snippet of code that I found in our production codebase. I found this while fixing a bug. This is not part of the bug though but I see this a problem. Should I say this to my senior that his logic is off here?
First he doesnt have to do explicitly strict comparison since the return type is boolean and it could be true or false. Also the returnUrl will alway be undefined because redirectIfUserLoggedIn is called first before it was set.
He dosent like me. Hell get mad for sure. I think ill let this go.
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It is about time we start thinking of real alternatives to JS in the browser.
What is wrong with TKinter on the web?
JavaFX? Even Windows Forms dude!
I am sick of the darn following:
- Webpack, Parcel
- React, Angular, Vue
- Typescript, babel
- Polyfills
- undefined
- COMPAFUCKINGBILITY!
- SPA VS. MPA
- SEO
- Maintainability
- BlaBla does not have a constructor
- <any>
I AM SICK OF WORKAROUNDS TO A ROOT PROBLEM WITHOUT BATTING AN EYE ABOUT THE ROOT PROBLEM!
LEARNING THE SHIT TON OF TOOLING FOR A MONTH BEFORE DOING ONE THING SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE! FUCK!29 -
* Customer reports bug.
* I fix the bug.
* This highlights another issue that I haven't got enough resources to fix.
* I revert the fix.
* <insert hacky workaround here>
We have code that invokes undefined behaviour (freeing memory twice), but somehow people have managed to build around it and now it depends upon it to work.
FML. -
And just when my boss thought I was done with spending too much time on StackOverflow, I discover devRant.
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I found a bug in the web app. (Yes, i will go to https://github.com/devRant/devRant/...). If you don't have an avatar you get the avatar url https://avatars.devrant.com/undefin... in the notifs (which doesnt exist)
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I've come to realize that when I get annoyed, it's usually because my lack of tolerance that is the problem. Annoying co workers is the perfect self improvement tool.1
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I was in dependency hell for two days.
Im a junior working in a team creating an ember app. Suddenly a main component refuses to work since an addon threw "EmberObject undefined"... Nobody could reproduce it and we where out of ideas, so I tried fixing it for 2days (7h total). I finally got it working after updating yarn :D
It never felt so good working again :) -
Thinking how the fuck did the variable became undefined and realizing you defined the variable in an asynchronous rest call...
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Hey, I have a cool idea about a new way to solve a problem our users are having!
Type type type, now I have a working prototype! Show it to the team, everyone loves it. Polish it a little, it works really great!
Now let's test it on an iPad like the ones our users have... Nope, nothing works, undefined is not a function.
F*CK YOU SAFARI, you're why we can't have nice things. 😤 -
You can say you know a computer language to a decent level when you can in fact make useful programs with it.
For example, I can say I know JavaScript to a basic level. I know its basic core functionality by heart (which can't be said for some people I know), such as:
- it manipulates the DOM, the DOM has Element, Nodes, TextNodes (all to be found on W3C documents with its own specs)
- useful functions are:
getElementById()
getElementsByClassName()
Also knowing that these return either HTMLElementCollection or NodeCollection because you have to iterate over it differently then
- element.textContent
- == and ===
- dynamic typing
- closures
- avoid global variables
- nodes have parentNodes
- isNaN, undefined
- arr.push()
- arguments don't have explicit types defined
- etc.
Using this knowledge I built an antispam script for a particular server. It's good to know the model of a language, that it sits in your head and that you can use and understand the constructs when you want and how you want.1 -
30 years ago several people said they saw UFOs, poor videos of black dots in the sky appeared all the time. Today, 3B people with great cameras in their pockets but still no new material. 🤷♂️6
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Hi everyone... Great to be back but not feeling so great. I keep feeling... "tired", "bored", like everything I do has no fucking meaning. Like I lost all of that fun I had when I was making my own projects. I get home at 6PM from work and it feels like time passes by so fast. I can't even muster up the enthusiasm to start my own personal projects.
What do you do when you feel like this? How can I get back my enthusiasm?13 -
mov al, [var]
var db 07h
Error on line 1: undefined operation size.
Silly me defining a byte, using mov on a byte-wide register with said byte-wide variable. What size it could be, the byte-wide variable is soo fucken unknown i'm so sorry.1 -
Focused on debugging Javascript after being asked for help. Original developer narrowed it down to an if statement. It was acting like the if statement was assigning the variable and causing undefined. Tested console.log before evaluation. Tried !== instead of != and same thing. Even swapped undefined and variable so it would try to assign a variable named undefined instead... It took way too long for the both of us to realize the word "let" in front of the variable on the line withing the if statement block... It overwrite the variable the moment it entered the block.... FML.1
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I am going to set up my own mini company and I am wondering about the name I will choose. Definitely want something strange and sarcastic like "undefined" or "null"...but these two are already taken? I was thinking about "1;DROP TABLE users" but it is too long. Any ideas out there? xD2
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In the darkest dankest parts of the code, I have discovered a way to get the tag UNDEFINED to show up in this rant. They call things that are unknown a black box. But you see, if you have a good enough shot gun, you can begin to blow enough holes through the box to figure out what's inside. I never said that whatever was inside the box was going to make it out... I just wanna get a good idea of what was inside.4
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jesus christ.
we just removed a parameter check in function bool f(). because its actually raised exceptions. that in the case when data is inconsistent.
sooo. in a function that returns a bool, we now return false when data we need to determine the result is missing.
i wonder when the first guy will find out what that means for calling the function with NOT f() and undefined data, its always gonna be true.. *facepalm*. -
The crown definitely goes to whenever I have to deal with dates/time/calendars/timezones across platforms and/or systems... Always makes me doubt those 10+ years of experience...1
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I expect somebody else has chosen this as well, but anyway:
Async.<any-function>, cause they brought me out of callback hell and taught me the undefined ways async...arghhhh fuck -
What the f*...
SomeType {
var something = {
somethingElse: "blah",
whatever: "halb"
}
var doStuff = function() {
this.something.whatever = "foo";
}
}
Based on what fucking logic are you claiming "something" is _undefined_ while running doStuff()??? What the fuck is wrong with you??? It's a freakin' static context!!!! "SOMETHING" IS DESIGNED TO BE DEFINED ! ! ! ! !8 -
Maybe not the worst but the worst one I can remember for sure and it happened recently. I may or may not have spent 4 hours with another developer working out why my script didn't work.. to realise that I had swapped the underscore in a method name for a period. No wonder everything came back undefined when I was dotting into a method that didn't exist 🤦🏻♀️ my only highlight was that the more experienced dev was there with me and he also couldn't find it for all that time lmao. I did briefly contemplate calling my University and asking them to just take my diploma back, I don't deserve it lmfao2
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Need some advise. I suggested a feature over an email to a CEO of a B$ company, he replied “we also have same idea in pipeline”, they developed it 3 years later. A lot of screens are same as I sent.
Can I ask for credit legally.14 -
Oh lord, may all GUI's come alive and eat their users, disintegrate their dev's and finally burst into flames and leave nothing but ashes.
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try{
If(!res || typeof res == undefined || res == undefined){}
}catch(err){
// you just had to throw an error
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Problems with Dynamic typing (eyyy JS)
0 < undefined // false
0 == undefined // false
0 > undefined // false6 -
So I'm supposed to implement a date range. Easy right?
Wrong. It's not implemented into Angular-material (even though it's quite a standard thing to do). There is a third party solution - that works with Angular 8. We're still on Angular 7.
So either we do the update, or we just put two date-picker side by side. I propose the two solutions. Head of UX come to me to say "every change have to go through UX".
Then, she's unpleasantly complaining that "that's why we do grooming" and "why haven't been detected before"... Ugh, those people job is to tell me where to put my button and they think they're important. I don't know, we work in an unprevisible world?
I tried the update. I get stupid, angular-style error like "'green is undefined'", and countless stupid dependancies incompatibilities.
I have a degree in usability. I didn't do UX because it's... not interesting. I love programming. I hate Angular.4 -
Working with Angular is like walking in a minefield.
Here, I get this ERROR in Cannot read property 'members' of undefined.
Of course, apparently stacktraces or clear error messages are optional for the Angular team.
Also, I looked for 'members' in my project. Hint, it's nowhere to be find.
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An undefined ArrayList coupled with NullPointerExceptions because of it really know how to raise your blood pressure up.
Spent almost 1 hour trying to figure out why and all I needed to do was look a couple lines above.
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How do you know that you are stuck in a job without longterm perspective (besides some undefined gut feeling)?
And what to do then? It seems to me, only possible action is to change job. Is there any, less extreme, alternative? -
Me: I found the problem. The function call is being given a reference to an undefined variable as an argument. The quotes around that argument were accidentally omitted; it's supposed to be a string.
A "Senior" Developer: No, that wouldn't cause it break.
Me: 😐3 -
(Fork of the current Chuck Norris wave)
Jack Bauer can assign values to undefined variables just yelling "Gimme a name!!!!"
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ME: Yes dear Typescript besserwisser knownothing, I assert that the var on line 32 is not undefined because I checked on line 31!
TS: Forbidden non-null assertion
ME: MS nutcase!1 -
<?php
// This is the demo code of a PHP gotcha which took me some hours to figure out
$hr = "\n<hr>\n";
$JSON = '{"2":"Element Foo","3":"Element Bar","Test":"Works"}';
$array = (array)json_decode($JSON);
echo "Version: " . phpversion() . $hr;
// Tested on: 5.5.35 and 7.0.15
var_dump($array);
// Prints: array(3) { '2' => string(11) "Element Foo" '3' => string(11) "Element Bar" 'Test' => string(5) "Works" }
echo $hr;
var_dump($array['Test']);
// Prints: string(5) "Works"
echo $hr;
var_dump($array[2]);
var_dump($array['2']);
var_dump($array["2"]);
var_dump($array[3]);
var_dump($array['3']);
var_dump($array["3"]);
// Prints: NULL + Notice: Undefined offset ... in ...
echo $hr;
$newArray = array();
foreach ($array as $key => $value) $newArray[$key] = $value;
var_dump($newArray[2]);
var_dump($newArray['2']);
var_dump($newArray["2"]);
// Prints three times: string(11) "Element Foo"
var_dump($newArray[3]);
var_dump($newArray['3']);
var_dump($newArray["3"]);
// Prints three times: string(11) "Element Bar"1 -
So today I tried to code in c++ by separating class code into header and cpp file which I had not done before. Compiler was throwing error while compiling, "undefined reference to std::cout". Took me nearly an hour to figure out I was using gcc instead of g++.6
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Why the pointer of member function so special.
trying make a non-template class that like std::function but simpler:
1. wrap static function pointer.
2. wrap class member function pointer and the class object pointer.
3. WITHOUT ALLOCATE MEMORY.
I can't store member function pointer because the size is undefined?! -
While building this site I decide to check if it works in internet explorer (you know, would be kinda nice) only to find out that apparently even edge does not support the js notation:
class MyClass {
// Stuff here.
}
Throws an exception 'MyClass' is undefined... Fuck you ie. Making me rewrite my damn classes.2 -
Hi! I've Been Watching a Tutorial series on How to make Amazon clone by nodejs,mongodb. He used Faker Api to insert Product but I tried to make a seperate Layout to insert product but using Async but it keeps saying "Cannot read Property '_id' of undefined.
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Decided to try the beta build of WP 5.0 today to get a feel for Gutenberg block development, but it's not building confidence. Following the examples in the Handbook (Link: https://wordpress.org/gutenberg/...) and it's failing when trying to set up the rich text editor because apparently the object it relies upon is undefined. Been trying to track down the code for the basic paragraph box for an hour or so now so I can see how it's doing things, and haven't turned up anything useful.
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Okay I always found these js weirdnesses that you see in memes more or less logical if you think about it, but so far I could not find any logic behind this:
true&&undefined
>undefined
false&&undefined
>false
can anyone explain wtf they thought about there? undefined is falsy so why not just convert it to boolean implicitly!4 -
Only math would be so bold to use an undefined value/parameter name as the argument for a function. I gave it an Uncaught ReferenceError.
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Do you think we need one more option for sharing and getting feedback on ideas/projects we have in mind/ working on.
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Typescript is my new favorite and my grudge is the stupid scoping of type assertions. I have an async function that checks whether a variable is set and awaits a change event if it's undefined. This function is working javascript but invalid according to typescript, because it relies on the exact type changing while the function is running. I had to convert it to a mess of promises to bypass this because (and this is the best) the callback-based syntax of identical meaning will reset all type assertions, even locals that are never written after the callback's creation.8
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Dear frontend dev,
if you can't check whether a variable is defined or not, why do i have to change the back end to accept urlparam='undefined' as valid and replace it with your default value in my backend? Why are you afraid of 40X's? You should be interested in the bugs of your code.
It feels awful to have a middleware in place catching all errors and replacing them with empty 200 responses 😭. All of this because you don't fucking ensure your variables exist before use.3 -
Javascript is my main tool at work right now, Typescript to be precise. It never ceases to amaze me, I guess as most of you.
What I've encountered recently still doesn't make sense to me but it seemingly works:
function a(){
someString && someFunction()
// other stuff ...
}
someString can be a string or undefined, someFunction can be a function or undefined.
How is that valid Javascript, without an assignment? Haven't found any explanation yet.23 -
Can someone explain why xc7a35t have a bunch of power pins for bank 13? There IS no bank 13 on that silicon. Wtf?
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I know null is not undefined and there is a very good reason for that - yet I'm still surprised every time something behaves differently depending on which is used.1
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Ever copied code from somewhere and had to deal with searching and fixing the stupid undefined Unicode character error for an hour (¬_¬)3
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last day before holidays starts. It was horrible so much to do, organizing, meetings and still no end...
but the rain is droping on the window and this sound make my feels much better1 -
"rust is great it's gonna kill C and C++ and all other low-level languages" i'm still hitting undefined behavior on printing a string to console and nothing else so i'm gonna say no as it's got the same issues C has8
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Axios docs recommend me to use catch() callback for server error
- Not working
Then in git issue someone told to provide error callback as second parameter in then()
- Not working
And I just sit here wondering why it return undefined result when the server return 400 :s6 -
So, I have a problem I'm working with mongoose in nodejs and I want to make a dynamic query like I have 2 fields gender and type of room and these are optionals so what I did I wrote an if condition that if gender is not undefined a variable which is q += "gender:" + " ' " + gender + " ' " + ","; and when I pass this variable in find() it doesn't work but if i write the same query directly there in find() it works what seems to be the problem?1
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You should leave undefined to the browser and keep null for yourself.
Don't '' var keep = undefined; ",
Do " var keep = null; "1 -
So many years of web dev and I still google the "jQuery $" function every time...
(function (window, $, undefined) {
}(window, jQuery));4 -
I'm having troubles with gRPC inside Docker, cannot figure out why some references are undefined in the *_pb.go files
pkg/proto/notify/notify_grpc.pb.go:14:11: undefined: grpc.SupportPackageIsVersion7
pkg/proto/notify/notify_grpc.pb.go:71:30: undefined: grpc.ServiceRegistrar
More details: https://stackoverflow.com/q/...2 -
Anyone know why the fuck ld would fail with undefined references on a file it's told to include by wildcard? Do I have to manually order all these fucking .o files?6
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{
regular: function () { return this }, // ok
arrow: () => { return this } // you mean undefined?
}3 -
Why in god's name does protobuf treat all enum values in the same scope??
Who would have thought that multiple enums may have values like "Undefined" or "Automatic"?
It's current year and somehow C style enums still haunt me1 -
I am using MERN to develop a poll app. I have 6 collections in my database. I have an API for each collection, 4 of those API returns the data whereas the other 2 return 'undefined'. What is the issue I am facing? Is MongoDB not allowing me to use more than 4 collections?6
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