"Microsoft should not need to buy github, the platform itself should be ran by a non profit org like wikipedia or linux."

Add a herp a derp at the end. It will probably make it sound less stupid or hypocritical.

Seriously though, how many of you mecos actually pay for shit? Eh? How many of you donate to your fav Linux distros or web platforms?

Lets say that the entire devrant base did :) pretty sweet eh? There are still 28 million developers on fucking github.....now how many of those contribute to help account for server costs etc? How many actually use private paid repos etc?

And without adds and shit? This ain't Facebook!!

It makes sense. I am glad they did... and fuck you I would too.

I will see what happens before I put on my (disgusting) Richard Stallman Hat.

Agreed, at the business side of things this deal is golden for GitHub.

@iihirotoii it really is man. One can't expect companies to live off the goodness of people.

@AleCx04 Yea!

@oudalally exactly

No it doesn't make sense to have two hosting services for version control.

One that is free for everyone and paid for private repos

And the other is free for 5 people on only private repos with no sight for public repos to everyone

It's displaying two different ideologies, it doesn't make sense unless it's about acquiring the already made user-base.

Microsoft tried and failed (CodePlex) and now they just want to get it the easy way.

No wonder people aren't confident that microsoft will treat it right, not to mention that a 4% shareholder CEO didn't revolutionize microsoft into this open source loving company, they're still the money grabbing thieves they always were among their board members.

And the fact that their own employees are using GitHub instead of VSTS is a proof that they don't want to be open source friendly. They just want developers to work for them whatever the cost, it has been the case for a long time and it still remains so.

@shaki fuck it then lets just go back to having github belong to no one and watch it sink thanks to the goodness of peoples hearts n_____n that is the best business model ever! As a developer I looooooove not getting paid for the large codebases I maintain, but here is my patreon link so that the people with actual jobs can pay me!!

Gimme a break. It really makes sense. You have open repos that anyone can look into and fuck around with and private repos for orgs etc. How does that not make sense is beyon me.

@AleCx04 No one likes not getting paid for their effort but not everyone makes enough money to throw here and there or to support their hobbies. I don't care if github cuts back just to stay afloat and to cover their own expenses.

The selling point of github was that it was detached from major corporations, it was a mutual unbiased place for small and major players.

We can't say the same now.

"but here is my patreon link so that the people with actual jobs can pay me!!" Who else are you depending on if not the people with actual jobs? students? kids?

Donating to open source projects is coming soon in my case.

I pay monthly for Tutanota, devRant and Mullvad. I also develop free accessible services.

As for this deal, I think my views on it are quite clear.

@oudalally

All i'm saying is that with their history of failure, time after time, product after another, you can't really blame people for jumping ship just at the idea of this acquisition.

@oudalally

"What you're implying here is that only people who don't program for a wage use free services"

I didn't specify that they program or not, I meant that people without enough income to contribute use free services

"Fundamentally, the hierarchy of development is that programmers are at the very bottom of the pile...]we're told what to write.."

Maybe in your case. Developers are the most hired jobs recently and you only take shit if you let it, you can be a mindless cog in the machine that's your choice. But don't go ahead and generalize it on everyone that development is at the bottom of the pile.

Github isn't unbiased anymore, they're owned by a company that had competition with them and failed multiple times which makes it suspicious on what they have in store for it (Atom vs VS etc).

A company that is notorious on its war against open source, just like religion they're forced to get with the times or face oblivion.

You can embrace them and say they've changed, not that there is anything wrong with that.

@shaki the selling point of github was not that. The selling poing of github was having a place online to host code and have people contribute to it.

Something that they will be able to continue doing WITH the added support of a company worth billions.

I want Github to survive, and I knew for a fact that it was destined to fail since the amount of growing users that used it as a hobby far surpased paying users.

@linuxxx not really. I know that you are crazy about open source and free stuff and whatever, but most of your ideas seemed at a glance pretty extreme to me, so i never really bothered checking where you stand in such cases as an acquisition like this.

@AleCx04 Oh okay, thanks for making that clear.

Glad that you said that to you my ideas seemed extreme and didn't say it as a fact.

I understand their reasons behind selling it but the second it's actually sold to Microsoft, I'm out.

Solely because Microsoft doesn't respect user freedom/privacy and is integrated within the prism program.

As simple that for me :)

@AleCx04 I won't completely agree with you. I am the kind of developer who would love to share his code for free without asking people to pay for it.
The idea behind GitHub was to provide a platform to open source. GitHub is not a company they just wanted a sustainable amount to afford to pay for the great work they have been doing.
I just want GitHub to stay as a platform whose motive is not to earn money.
But be that platform for people like me.
And no i am not saying Microsoft will fuck it up or they are the evil money making company. People are just a little emotional (including me) towards the notion of open source (the sign of peace and goodness)

@Bitwise that is great my dude,i do sl too, but as I said, even if the entire devrant base would do it it would still be nothing compared to the total user base of github

@vidu the idea behind github will remain the same dude. Companies have been using and benefiting from github for years. There are repos and accounts for a looooot of closed source software so this will make zero difference.

Alec is right.

There will be singularity like Bitwise and Linuxxx; who actually pay to open source service and products. Singularity.

Majority of us definitely don't. We will use GitHub for Public repo and Bitbucket for Private repo. We will self host GitLab. And so on.

GitHub is just one of the many startups that has a good product and a great user based. This is literally one of the few best cases that can happen to them. There are way worse situations they can end up with.

For MS, below are all my opinions. This is not just "hey let's buy this shit because we can" decision. Since few years ago it seemed that MS found the biggest shit stain they have and trying to clean it. The shit stain of many developers hatred. They are doing their best to get the lost love of developers. So this move they made is quite a risk but if they can pull it off perfectly, they will get a great reward.

@linuxxx yeah man they are extreme for me, but I don't consider them wacky or anything. I actually think it is pretty darned impressive.

You know we got love for you boo

@AleCx04 if we use comic analogy, he is extreme like a Batman. Not as a joker. 😆

@cursee for real hahaha

@cursee No clue about Batman but @AleCx04 thanks haha, I'll see that as a compliment ;)

@Bitwise they must be batshit crazy if they made stupid changes :3

I'm not sure whether I am missing the point, but Github IS profitable. (And gas always been for profit)

@david-hil those are investments money. Investment money is technically as good as the money you borrowed from loan shark. But very smart and gentle and legal loan sharks.

The investors or investing firms will fuck you up nicely if you are going south.