I promise I'll 100% convert to linux if that bottom right one becomes the standard.

Should convert anyways, it's better :p

@ScribeOfGoD No. It takes twice as long to do any simple task on linux.

But this isn't fixing to becoming a Linux vs Windows shitfest discussion. There's too many of them as it is. So we shall agree to disagree.

If you dont know what the hell you're doing then I guess it takes twice as long :p

@ScribeOfGoD Linux is not some golden bullet that solves everything, there are plenty of use cases where windows is the better choice. Now before you get mad, I also see the many reasons people do like Linux, there is a reason both operating system coexist.

@hexc Most Stallman screechers can't realize that 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️.

@hexc might not be golden but it's still better for most. Besides games Windows has nothing on it

@Stuxnet screeeeeeeeeeeech

@ScribeOfGoD it's also not for people who don't want to have to use a cli, it's 2018 command line interfaces shouldn't be needed anymore...

@hexc Not a huge fan on the command line, but i have to admit, a simple command to download and install shit is pretty cool.

The first time i installed something using the command line, it blew my mind lol.

@Stuxnet yeah but when you make the comment that Linux is better for most, you have to remember "most" includes MANY people that don't want to learn how to use a CLI, they just want to use the computer in a simple hassle free manner. When people recommend Linux to people I think they forget that not everyone one is technical/enjoys learning computer related things.

@hexc Exactly. Id never suggest it to an average user unless it is a very dumbed down version of Linux, kinda like ChromeOS lol.

I thought about installing it on my family pc for the sake of the low chance at getting a virus. But it's no where near worth the headache of teaching them.

It's cool, but not for everyone.

@Stuxnet right and thats why I hate when people blindly recommend Linux as a "best" operating system, or they laugh at windows users / make jokes about them because it's not. There are plenty of faults with it just like there are with every other operating system.

@hexc All 3 OS have issues.

All 3 are shitty in several ways.

All 3 are great in several ways.

Just let people use what they want for fuck sakes.

I feel where you're coming from lol

@Stuxnet right, I don't get why there are so many debates about what ones best. Honestly it pisses me off nearly as much as all the "sudo" jokes that plague this community.

That bottom right on is a cringe trigger !

One is not better than another. That said, wherever you are most comfortable is the better one. And Linux makes a significant effort to make sure everything can be changed to make you comfortable

Butbut windows sucks, switch to linux, linux ftw (even if i don't who you're, what you prefer, what're you're needs...)... Oh I'm already late /s

Open 9gag, saw this post. Open Devrant, same post.. 🤔

So many people here who seem to think Linux is still this difficult to install OS where you must have a degree in bash scripting to do anything...

I have installed Linux Mint for several (fairly dumb) family members, and requests for support have decreased dramatically. I replaced OSX with Mint for development, and find it easier to use than both OSX and Windows. Even the OS installation is simple as fuck.

I still use Windows for a few games and Adobe CS, but it clocks in below Linux and OSX in terms of being noob friendly.

@Desinika 🤷🏻‍♂️ Cool story bro.

9gag is ass so I can confirm it didn't come from there.

@Stuxnet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@bittersweet so many people here who think linux is the best solution to everything, everyone, never crash and can do everything

@bittersweet It's not that it's difficult to install.

It's difficult to use.

I spent 2 and a half hours trying to fix broken wifi drivers.

Another 30 trying to get old CDs to play because the default media center wouldn't work.

PyCharm? 45 minutes.

I can't remember how long it took me to make the function keys work.

Umm that's the main problems Ive had, and the same things took less than 5 minutes each on Windows 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️.

It's a learning experience, that's for sure. And it's all about personal preference, but some people fail to realize that key factor.

@kenogo Aside from us computer people, nobody else on the face of this Earth needs a command line. Not a damn soul.

They need something to browse through their shitty Facebook feed and watch cat videos.

@Stuxnet Which distro? Don't listen to the Arch boys, that's truly a productivity killer 😝

@Stuxnet For those purposes, an Android tablet is better suited and cheaper than a Windows PC.

And Android (for now) is still Linux 🙃

@bittersweet Mint lol

I think I probably fucked up the install. It just irritates me because when I find an issue I have to solve it. It's a bad habit to be unable to drop something.

I'm probably going to try something like Fedora when I get some free time. Or maybe ElementaryOS.

Who wants to watch cat videos on a 7" screen when you can have a 20" monitor though? lol

@Stuxnet That's indeed strange... Mint installed without problems on my MacBook (including support for all the silly MacBook features), and the Jetbrains toolbox wasn't difficult to install either.

@bittersweet I likely just found an overcomplicated method of doing it lmao

I'm always doing shit like that, especially in class.

@kenogo Windows doesn't have scripting language and command line tools? strange maybe I live in a parallel universe

@kenogo I use GUI 99% of times, because I prefer it ... but few times that I had to use it, it was fine for me :) maybe you're just too used to bash?

@kenogo maybe just because the pdf print is natively implemented in bash and not in PowerShell? it's just a feature ... probably because most of windows user click on printer icon to print to pdf, so of course they focused on GUI than CLI features first ... in linux is the other way around probably :)

@kenogo You'd be glad to know that Microsoft is releasing powershell for Linux 🤣

@bittersweet probably who is used to print pdf from CLI will not ... but sys admin that prepared lot of big scripts for other stuff, will be

@kenogo but still I think, in linux that stuff in CLI exists because was there before the GUI

@dontbeevil Microsoft also had a CLI before a GUI, it was called DOS.

Linux just stuck to the unix philosophy, where every tool must have a small, single responsibility, and be composable with other tools.

Composability works very well on a command line, you can make tools work together.

Sure, you can click buttons, but I'm not paid to click buttons all day.

For example, I often need to import a zipped daily backup database from s3. I could login, click download, drag the sql file out of the zip, open a tool like datagrip and import. Or I could pipe the output from aws cli to tar, through pv, into mysql directly. A dozen clicks, vs one single aliased command.

@bittersweet if I was in your case I would write a script and make a .bat file (or similar)