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@ScribeOfGoD No. It takes twice as long to do any simple task on linux.
But this isn't fixing to becoming a Linux vs Windows shitfest discussion. There's too many of them as it is. So we shall agree to disagree. -
If you dont know what the hell you're doing then I guess it takes twice as long :p
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hexc11206y@ScribeOfGoD Linux is not some golden bullet that solves everything, there are plenty of use cases where windows is the better choice. Now before you get mad, I also see the many reasons people do like Linux, there is a reason both operating system coexist.
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@hexc might not be golden but it's still better for most. Besides games Windows has nothing on it
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hexc11206y@ScribeOfGoD it's also not for people who don't want to have to use a cli, it's 2018 command line interfaces shouldn't be needed anymore...
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@hexc Not a huge fan on the command line, but i have to admit, a simple command to download and install shit is pretty cool.
The first time i installed something using the command line, it blew my mind lol. -
hexc11206y@Stuxnet yeah but when you make the comment that Linux is better for most, you have to remember "most" includes MANY people that don't want to learn how to use a CLI, they just want to use the computer in a simple hassle free manner. When people recommend Linux to people I think they forget that not everyone one is technical/enjoys learning computer related things.
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@hexc Exactly. Id never suggest it to an average user unless it is a very dumbed down version of Linux, kinda like ChromeOS lol.
I thought about installing it on my family pc for the sake of the low chance at getting a virus. But it's no where near worth the headache of teaching them.
It's cool, but not for everyone. -
@hexc All 3 OS have issues.
All 3 are shitty in several ways.
All 3 are great in several ways.
Just let people use what they want for fuck sakes.
I feel where you're coming from lol -
One is not better than another. That said, wherever you are most comfortable is the better one. And Linux makes a significant effort to make sure everything can be changed to make you comfortable
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So many people here who seem to think Linux is still this difficult to install OS where you must have a degree in bash scripting to do anything...
I have installed Linux Mint for several (fairly dumb) family members, and requests for support have decreased dramatically. I replaced OSX with Mint for development, and find it easier to use than both OSX and Windows. Even the OS installation is simple as fuck.
I still use Windows for a few games and Adobe CS, but it clocks in below Linux and OSX in terms of being noob friendly. -
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@bittersweet It's not that it's difficult to install.
It's difficult to use.
I spent 2 and a half hours trying to fix broken wifi drivers.
Another 30 trying to get old CDs to play because the default media center wouldn't work.
PyCharm? 45 minutes.
I can't remember how long it took me to make the function keys work.
Umm that's the main problems Ive had, and the same things took less than 5 minutes each on Windows 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️.
It's a learning experience, that's for sure. And it's all about personal preference, but some people fail to realize that key factor. -
@kenogo Aside from us computer people, nobody else on the face of this Earth needs a command line. Not a damn soul.
They need something to browse through their shitty Facebook feed and watch cat videos. -
@Stuxnet Which distro? Don't listen to the Arch boys, that's truly a productivity killer 😝
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@Stuxnet For those purposes, an Android tablet is better suited and cheaper than a Windows PC.
And Android (for now) is still Linux 🙃 -
@bittersweet Mint lol
I think I probably fucked up the install. It just irritates me because when I find an issue I have to solve it. It's a bad habit to be unable to drop something.
I'm probably going to try something like Fedora when I get some free time. Or maybe ElementaryOS.
Who wants to watch cat videos on a 7" screen when you can have a 20" monitor though? lol -
@Stuxnet That's indeed strange... Mint installed without problems on my MacBook (including support for all the silly MacBook features), and the Jetbrains toolbox wasn't difficult to install either.
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@bittersweet I likely just found an overcomplicated method of doing it lmao
I'm always doing shit like that, especially in class. -
@kenogo You'd be glad to know that Microsoft is releasing powershell for Linux 🤣
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@dontbeevil Microsoft also had a CLI before a GUI, it was called DOS.
Linux just stuck to the unix philosophy, where every tool must have a small, single responsibility, and be composable with other tools.
Composability works very well on a command line, you can make tools work together.
Sure, you can click buttons, but I'm not paid to click buttons all day.
For example, I often need to import a zipped daily backup database from s3. I could login, click download, drag the sql file out of the zip, open a tool like datagrip and import. Or I could pipe the output from aws cli to tar, through pv, into mysql directly. A dozen clicks, vs one single aliased command.
I promise I'll 100% convert to linux if that bottom right one becomes the standard.
joke/meme