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This is what I've been putting up with on my personal machine for months.

tl;dr: Suggestions for a wlan card/adapter for Debian9? My current RealTek wnic is barely functional, and my replacement (a TPLink... something) is completely incompatible.

I don't need anything super fancy, though I would ofc love support for AC/AD if at all possible.

I don't care (too much) about price, since I'm only going to buy one and very likely won't replace it for years.

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I'm running Debian9 and have a have a RealTek card. Even when it's not arbitrarily dropping packets like in the screenie, it randomly caches them for up to 90 seconds and dumps them hilariously out of order. I can't play games like that. I can barely even browse devRant. Steam goes offline about once every 30 seconds, and therefore spams all of my friends with online/offline notifications. Streaming "works" on good days. Git works fine, however, so most days I don't notice the connection issues.

And yes, I'm using a community-patched driver (rtl8188ce) that's supposed to fix some of RealTek's more major screwups and increase the transmit power by ~20x. The driver helps, but only a little.

I've done some reasearch on wlan linux support, but haven't found anything very reassuring. Mostly just forum posts saying things like "Intel cards usually work fine!" I don't want to gamble. I just want to buy a card that will work and be done with it. :(

Suggestions? Insight?

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    I'd suggest against Broadcom and Qualcomm cards. I quite like Alfa Network's products here but maybe for the wrong reasons 😛 (they usually have all 7 WiFi modes supported, have packet injection capability etc).. but come to think of it, I'm not sure if they make internal cards. And wireless hacking has always been this sort of niche thing on 5GHz, so again I'm not sure if Alfa works with this sort of thing. Hmm..
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    Well, looks like Alfa doesn't really provide a whole lot of internal PCI-Mini cards.. couldn't find any. For USB cards, their AWUS036H, AWUS036NH and AWUS036ACH are best known among security chaps. They're well-supported in Linux and offer a wide variety of features, and the antenna can be swapped out.

    For internal cards, with my Qualcomm card I've had quite a few problems with on the Bluetooth side, and Broadcom's drivers suck pretty bad too (but at least I could get that working in Arch after a few weeks of head-scratching). Realtek chips which the Alfa cards use as well shouldn't have too many problems though. Consider checking whether the issue persists in a live session, and (if you've poked around in the laptop's internals before) whether the antenna cables from your WiFi card into the monitor haven't been stressed or damaged. They're just coax cables so if they're damaged, replacements should be easy to find.
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    @Condor I'll definitely look into those! (The machine isn't a lappy, however 😋)

    @FrodoSwaggins Thanks!
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    @Root oh, in that case do take a look at the AWUS036ACH! It uses USB3 for interfacing, has 2 connectors for antennas, and supports 5GHz. Once I get myself some USB 3.0 expansion card for my server, maybe I'll get myself one of those too 😋
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    Intel cards usually work fine!

    xD but in all seriousness this could be so deeply embedded in the driver/firmware as to be not worth your time to troubleshoot.

    A really good check would be using an Ethernet connection and comparing with your WiFi. If that’s good, then I’d take your exact laptop model number and plug forums for “compatible WiFi” to see what comes up. If nothing does it might be time to look at Mint or Ubuntu for large communities with lots of weird hardware support.

    Some side information: TCP/IP should be making sure that every packet is arriving in order as it was sent, and reconstructed in the appropriate order. The fact that packets are sometimes wildly out of order implies that layer 3 or 4 of the OSI model are breaking and that’s very concerning. This implies potential for hardware failure if you’re not having issues with other devices on the same network.
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    @Condor I’m still waiting for your awesome phone SSH access rant!
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    @Diactoros The same card works perfectly when I boot into Windows 7, so it's definitely the driver. (Also, the machine isn't a lappy!)
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    @Diactoros phone SSH access.. ehm, mind elaborating a bit further?
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    @Condor I had this on my iPhone. I very much enjoyed calling `poweroff` and `reboot` remotely 😊
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    @Diactoros @Root ooh, I see now! A Dropbear daemon you mean? Haven't really looked into it yet to be honest. After I installed that initial release of Android 9, I didn't even install TWRP or root the thing yet :') but since then, signed builds have been released so I'll have to clean flash it soon anyway. Perhaps I'll root the thing again then, along with the whole init fuckery to get Dropbear working :)
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