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    I don't see that as terrifying
  • 1
    @irene that your Pulse and Blood pressure is tracked when you are in a Walmart?
  • 0
    @bcye was tracked and will be tracked also all shops track how many customers visit their stores. Welcome to 21st century
  • 0
    @vane what? That’s already being done?
  • 0
    @bcye yes. So?

    There's too much craze about any sort of feedback.
  • 1
    I don’t know about you, but I don’t like my pulse blood pressure and location being tracked every time when I enter a store
  • 2
    @bcye right now I am waiting for those insurance companies to force you to monitor your health because it’s good for you. Then ban most of “unhealthy” food and we are simply nothing more then animals on farm. There is so much things going now right now my brain is on fire.
  • 0
    @vane there will always be so much things going on.
  • 1
    @bcye biotechnology is next big thing right now, waiting for implants
  • 3
    @irene @vane Tracking how many people enter your store is different from tracking how they're feeling.
  • 1
    @theNSA yeah I condensed my thoughts, counting people is pretty old idea, now we’re heading into emotional economy with infrared cameras and ai startups.
  • 0
    @theNSA I think both are fine.
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    @irene Theoretically, I agree. The issue is that companies have no morals and will invade your privacy as much as they can in order to boost sales. Even the stuff they do now is sketchy at best so giving them more tools is not a good idea.
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    Oh how glad I am that this would be highly illegal in my country!

    Everyone's heart rate is unique (there are biometric access devices in the making which work based on heart rate) which makes it biometric data and you may only collect that over here if you have a very legitimate reason (as in, there are very, very strict laws as for the usage) and you have to be able to prove that you are the best in the motherfucking world at securing the data.

    It's technically just like a finger/earprint so at least over here it'll be a while before its allowed and then I'd genuinely stop visiting shops who'd do this!
  • 0
    @theNSA privacy is a buzzword nowadays. 😒
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    @linuxxx wouldnt they need to tell you that your heart rate is being tracked? Like an offline cookie banner
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    @bcye Yes hahaha, they're also required to do that in the case of Bluetooth/wireless tracking.

    They'd have to get ISO certified and have customers sign consent documents cD

    @irene Nah, it's a human right, without it, we definitely wouldn't be alive now.
  • 1
    @linuxxx waait? I never saw anything informing me about Bluetooth tracking but I’m buying at one of Germany’s major supermarkets
  • 0
    @bcye Not sure about Germany, I'm just talking about Dutch laws here 😅
  • 1
    @linuxxx they should be pretty similar I think, because of EU
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    @bcye Oh you'd be surprised haha, German intelligence agencies can store data gathered through mass surveillance for up to 90 days, over here, unencrypted data can be stored for a Max of 3 years, encrypted data up to 6 years 😥
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    @linuxxx yeah they got some deals with nsa, they give them data and get prism or XKeyscore in return as far as I know
  • 1
    @linuxxx since humans are social animals, privacy is not our intrinsic right.
  • 0
    @irene So you're saying that you wouldn't mind not having privacy?
  • 0
    @linuxxx all I'm saying is that it is not an intrinsic human property.

    It's your wish not to use some services because of some bloated concerns.

    Some concerns are justified but some are just bloated enormously.
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    I think that privacy can be denied by age, health, wealth, crime etc. and that’s where we’re going right now. Take care of your children, parents by giving them health band.
    Take care of your house, buy insurance and install our smart home system for free.
    Monitor bands for small crimes - nobody is denying that, because it’s obvious now.

    There would always be people who accept denial of privacy and if this technology would make them happy they will grow in numbers.
    Problem is when government takes that privilege and make it a law to get votes so wouldn’t have choice other then leave the country or wear that devices.
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    @vane I agree with that
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    @irene
    Humans are social creatures, but also private. We could probably argue privacy rights all day, but privacy has already been declared a human right by the UN UDHR (article 12: "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy"). This obviously only legally encompasses the UN nations but the idea of the UDHR is that it's universal to all humans.

    Edit: link - https://un.org/en/...
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    @theNSA how was "privacy" defined in that law? It wasn't defined at all. By the broad meaning of the term "privacy" you can legitimately claim that no one can ever look at you, hear you or have any possible physical interaction with you, otherwise that would be the violation of privacy.

    The main problem is the vast broadness of the term which makes the term a buzzword which means exactly nothing in the long run.
  • 0
    @theNSA Brain-computer interface there is your privacy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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    @irene You can say the same about pretty much anything though
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    @irene that it is being used as a buzzword, doesn’t mean that it’s still very important.
    Also, that it‘s used as a buzzword draws the media’s attention which can affect it in the long run
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    @bcye no. If it's used as buzzword then it will be distorted. The way privacy is interpreted right now is a sure way to neo-luddism.
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