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What if you broke the server components a few times and suddenly one server of them appears in my room??
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@FrodoSwaggins yeah, I know... The intended use case is (don't laugh 😅) network-attached storage and a bit of virtualization, but we'll be replacing the drives when we go into production. We just happened to have a box of Purples (I honestly don't know why) and I figured they'll be good enough for testing.
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@jayMcD brilliant! I'll be posting some pics the moment I get some time alone in the server room.
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@linuxxx I don't know about any ethical problems (please enlighten me), but the repos are grossly outdated. I need a thrid-party repo for Python 3? PHP 7? Whyy???
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@gitversion the problem is not about upgrading accidentally. It's about upgrading to a new major/breaking version accidentally. Ubuntu Server (yes, I said the forbidden words) solves this by having separate php and php7 packages. Same for python and python3. EPEL does this, but it's technically a third-party repo.
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Condor323326yNice! Why the issue with JBOD though? I can't really think of any use for it. You get the stability concerns of a RAID-0 with it, but not the speed improvement. Why bother? RAID-10 (?) seems to be a good solution. For general-purpose server storage, I'd probably have gone for WD Red though, as they're very stable and are really made for NAS/server storage purposes, as well as WD Gold. Purples are more for surveillance purposes, so I don't know if they're going to be any good for general storage.
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TobyAsE28116yI haven't seen a proliant that can take 3.5" hard drives before. Just set one up a few weeks ago and I was a bit surprised when searching for drives that all the slots were 2.5".
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@Condor I would really like to use ZFS (or btrfs), but hardware RAID controllers hide too much information from the OS. At best you don't get most of ZFS's benefits and at worst you straight up lose data.
And we'll be going for WD Reds (or equivalent from another brand) when we go into production. The Purples are just the only disks we happened to have enough of for testing. -
@TobyAsE they are annoyingly rare. I know at least the entire DL380 series uses 3.5", as well as many of their tower servers.
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TobyAsE28116y@franga2000 I can't confirm that. The server I set up was a hp proliant dl380 g7...
Doesn't matter, the point is, hp doesn't seem to like 3.5" drives. -
@TobyAsE Thanks for pointing that out! It would seem, that I am an idiot. The server is in fact a DL180. I don't know why I wrote 380 initially, or how I didn't realize my mistake writing it a second time. 🤦♂️
It's the 180s that I've always seen with 3.5", although an image search reveals that 2.5" configs exist too, so I guess I'm just going mad.
(In my defense, their model numbers make **no sense**)
Finally, I can play around with a proper server.
HP ProLiant DL380 G6 = dual 8-core Xenons @ 2.4GHz with 32GB RAM and 12TB / RAID1-0 of WD Purples (we happened to have them for some reason).
Already pissed at HP because they don't support JBOD and already pissed at myself for using CentOS, but other than that, enjoying the hell out of it!
And it's ALL MINE! ... Well, technically it's the org's, but it won't go into production for half a year and I'm the only one with the root access so, for now, it's MINE! 😅
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