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JoshBent
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You can always fucking tell when it is the season of economics student "entrepreneurs", by just scrolling through the job feed - "payment not verified", "$10k", "NEXT BIG IDEA", "I need", ..

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  • 1
    Everyone has to start someplace, I wonder how those with achievements got their first break ?
  • 3
    @Nanos the point is that those kiddos have no actual base, nor money to back anything, but felt immediately inspired to splash vomit their "ideas" for freelancers to do for free.
  • 6
    @davenall Youre comparing apples (heh) to oranges - apple has had and continues to have a successful run, both financially and as a tech empire, some hipster moustache with no money - doesn't and I wouldn't be able to pay my rent with printed out chat logs of "you'll get shares" or "this is the next Microsoft Windows of our time".
  • 7
    Interestingly I notice the same, not sure what to call it, same kind of behaviour in a MMORPG.

    After playing one in particular for 10+ years, I'm finally top of the ladder, all pimped out and geared up.

    Suddenly I notice people are taking me seriously..

    They want to play with me, work with me, chat to me, even flirt with me..

    Yet, when I was one level below the top, no one cared one ounce what I said, wanted to help, or have anything to do with me !

    I don't get it, a day make so much difference to who someone is !

    It seems its just about resources, if you have them, folk want to be your friend, if not, they aren't interested.

    Though I have noted that some people will be a little friendly, just before you hit the top..

    I guess they are trying to get in early. :-)

    It's interesting.

    Having a captive example here to ask questions, I'm not sure what to ask you that would give me any more wisdom on the issue !
  • 1
    > wouldn't be able to pay my rent

    Sounds so much like my ex that. :-)
  • 1
    I'm reminded of a con artist I met once (Socially..) who was able to be very convincing about having more sources than they actually had.

    I remember they wasn't good at details though, so if you knew something about the subject they was going on about, you could catch them out.

    Again, it was interesting how many people fell for their speel.
  • 1
    I spot a lot of good ideas out in the wild, as such I would be a fan of Universal Basic Income, just so those ideas could get some traction.

    Though, nowadays we have crowd funding, so I'm always suggesting that to folk with an idea.

    I still think UBI would be useful, as a precursor to crowd funding.
  • 5
    @Nanos I'm a freelancer, I have bills to pay, I am not trying to somehow get into the top clique, just have food to eat and car to drive :-)

    Though what you've described I guess is normal in almost all forms of "online fame", which being the top 1 player is part of, have seen that in many other games, not just MMORPG, it's basically people wanting to boast having a friend that is the highest rank etc.
  • 4
    I notice in MMORPG's, and I guess Real Life too, you get this happening a lot:

    1 person whose rich and highly skilled, 9 people who aren't..

    Those 9 all want the 1 person to help them, who generally doesn't.. (They want to work with the other rich folk..)

    But those 9, if they cooperated together, would have the wealth and the skillset of that 1 rich person.

    But they don't !

    Why don't folk cooperate ?

    I know in some countries they do more than others.

    Just annoys me we act so instinct based and lack of logical about the best way to solve problems.

    Lots of useful people each with a piece of the puzzle, but not wanting to work with their fellow human kind, until that other person is rich and useful !

    I wander around the MMORPG world, helping out people here and there, and they are quite astonished !

    It's a game, with people, why wouldn't I want to play with others !
  • 1
    @Nanos you're assuming a very different mindset with your wish, it goes with age, background and just how somebody developed if he will help or rather be jealous and toxic

    todays kids are what I call the "instagram/twitter generation", can't form whole sentences, all the time jealous of imaginary always happy personas and more

    it was a much healthier development phase for us, "missing out" on all that, also I feel the very old MMORPGs were also much healthier when it came to helping others, which is why I enjoyed the beta of fallout76 so much, truly threw me back to the "good old times" :)
  • 1
    > "good old times"

    I wonder what the secrets are to crafting a game to re-create that kind of environment ?
  • 1
    @Nanos mainly preventing people from griefing, reward helping others and punish certain behaviour, though I could see dipshits running around quickly helping in a mission and then returning to their own business, forced models rarely help making ugly personas less ugly, it's the online world after all, it is just sometimes a setting, a theme, nostalgia what makes people be nicer to others, which I think in the beta is the case, though once it opens to the mass, it'll be just another asshole farm probably..
  • 1
    > fallout76

    FX [ Goes to check it out. ]
  • 0
    @davenall I probably will never work together with somebody, especially not split an LLC with somebody, I can register a LLC alone too, but tbh I just simply don't care about the tax benefits I'd get, my tax adviser suggested similar things before, but it's not worth my time and $700+.

    I don't agree on "listening to every opportunity" either, somebody that doesn't have his payment verified and is clearly a fool/tool from first economics semesters, is not worth my time nor effort, if he'd have a clear vision and verified payment, I'd much rather listen and see if I want to engage with the idea.
  • 0
    @davenall most out themselves already in the description and not verifying their proposed budget, but yeah that's another trick I use during the interview if the description and budget passed.
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