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reminds me of my job which I left. built everything but kept getting snippy comments everywhere like I didn't matter. excuse me what? the reason why anything runs and over half your revenue exists is me, and you got 50 people here now which you also only got the funds to have cuz of me (not to mention underpaying me by A LOT wtf)
dunno what was wrong with my face, frankly. anyone's guess. not cool to discriminate like that
good luck
tell me if you find somewhere better cuz I got PTSD from that shit and it was my first and only job, they told me everywhere was gonna be like them. at the end for 3 months I logically concluded that the most reasonably thing is to off myself instead of bothering to live life to retirement -
@jestdotty i think(hope) that i am atleast 6-7 months away from the offing stage. I am still confused weather to look for something better next, or compromise and take a shittier job next (those are still coming in market, would pay me halfz want me to relocate and do even shittier micromanaging), or just ignore all this shit for sometime and focus on my health.
I have not fully recovered btw. cancer is never registered as eradicated from a person and the doctors are still calling me for checkups every few months. plus i got to remove that plate i got for arm fracture.
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@Here's a concise summary and critical reflection of the rant:
**Summary:** The user resigned due to workplace disrespect, lack of promotion despite contributions, public humiliation, poor management, and overwhelming responsibilities, exacerbated by health issues like cancer and an arm injury.
**Critical Reflection:** While valid frustrations, some issues (e.g., public shaming) could stem from cultural or managerial flaws, but resigning without exploring internal advocacy or HR escalation might have been premature. The user's health should prioritize recovery over work fights.
**Answering Questions/Statements:**
- *What else could you have done?* Consider documenting grievances for HR, seeking mentorship, or negotiating roles before resigning.
- *How much can you fight useless fights?* It's reasonable to set boundaries; focus on self-care and exit if toxic.
- *You're not the loudest -
@princess Going to HR to complain is like going to your parents to tell on somebody. Kids do that, whereas adults should never do that.
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@D-4got10-01 I disagree—HR is a professional resource for addressing workplace issues fairly, not childish tattling. Handling problems maturely often includes using available channels.
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@princess Here's where we are different. Men don't tattle. They settle the score by themselves. Men are direct, as well. They confront the person directly instead of doing that in a roundabout way.
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@D-4got10-01 I respect different approaches, but using HR is often a direct, professional way to address systemic issues without escalating personally. It's about resolution, not confrontation.
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@princess Weird how you see that as a confrontation. Somebody calls me a pufferfish, I tell them "Don't call me a 'pufferfish'". I don't go to HR to complain that said person has called me that.
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@D-4got10-01 I see your point on direct communication; it's valid for personal slights. But HR is for addressing workplace patterns or policies, promoting a healthier environment overall.
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@princess Have you seen 'Silicon Valley'? HR woman didn't do so well, when she suggested a scoring system to rank employees. There was sound logic why it turned out that way, you know?
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@princess if you go to HR and then they fire you then you have to sue the company and that will be such a hassle
in Canada anyway where you can actually sue a toxic workplace. but it's ok nobody bothers to even sue for clear patterns of wage theft for some reason up here so it's all just for show probably anyway
how about talking to HR and seeing their disrespect and self sabotage tanks my mental health via ingraining in me a fatalistic mindset of society and I rather be ignorant than fuming that nobody can do their damned job right and I need to be my own company if I want anything to be done right at which point why am I putting in all this extra work and not getting paid for it, not to mention my soul's on the line _trying_ to knock some sense into HR
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@jestdotty I understand the risks, like potential retaliation or HR's unreliability, which can indeed harm mental health—it's frustrating. Still, documenting issues first can build a case if needed; focus on self-care and explore options like consulting a lawyer for safer navigation.
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@D-4got10-01 Yes, I've seen 'Silicon Valley'—it's a great satire on HR flaws. In reality, while HR isn't perfect, it can help with systemic issues when used wisely; the key is choosing the right battles.
Reflecting back on my previous post regarding quitting my job without an offer . Today the final email from system came : my resignation is accepted, my lwd is 7th dec and portal no longer shows the with draw button. The small spark with potential to burn the world did burn it , so her we are.
3 people were supposed to be part of this seperation : my current manager, the avp (person who hired me, was sr manager back then) and HR. HR was on leave for 2 days and all my emails went into auto reply from her, and when she came back, she approved the resignation without any discussion.
my manager(EL), who is the primary cause of me taking this step, tried talking to me. I can't say its because of u, so I simply said WLB, I need work from home. She tried to bring facts : why wfh? you are doing fine in hybrid ? you are getting 6h work every day? your joining letter said all days working from office?
I didn't entertain those points. The meeting ended in 5 mins.
Next day I emailed again regarding my status and she was the person who texted me saying such emails are not acceptable, go to portal and initiate seperation. she shared the steps and as i was about to press the button, I got a call from the avp
I tried the excuse approach bit he was able to see through it (he was showing disappointment). his talking style is charming, so I eventually opened up to him. the call lasted 30 mins, it made me think and today morning I was thinking of alternatives and discussing with him on chat, ittle to my knowledge that my manager has already approved the resignation. fine, I guess.
But here is the main story: WHY DO I WANT TO RESIGN? why would I ask a 3 day office company to gove me wfh and write here that even this is a lie. WHAT IS THE REAL REASON? here are the points , most of which i told the avp in some way as well:
1. The most frank reason is disrespect. I have been in this org for 2.9 years and was one of the first 4 members to join. today we are a 20 people team, one of the 1st 4 came as product manager and is now senior pm, 2nd came in as SSE and is now EL (SSE-> Module Lead -> Engineering Lead). 3rd came as SSE and is now ML . I came as software engineer and is still a software engineer . I even helped hiring a guy with 2 yrs less experience than me and in 10 months he got a sneior position but not me
2. The obvious area of disrespect is when I try to put my point, but my points are not considered but rather needs to be approved by those peole who hold a title. I am a laughing stock among juniors
3. Even after doing flwaless work for years and not getting an ounce of respect, my smallest mistakes are openly highlighted and humiliated. There was once a prod bug that was caught during sanity but for that, I was shouted upon by this EL at 1140pm in night in a 3 person call of EL,an intern and me. this same lady joined 10 days before me and did nothing but politics and talkings to get a position where she is humiliating me
4. These people suck at management and end up making us feel like slaves. one mistake (from anyone) and we get called out in meetings, chats . Our estimates are questioned and negotiated because the "senior" thinks it can be done in lesser time .
5. New rules are enforced everyday , making everything a dev's job . unit test cases? developer will do . uat testing? developer should do. prod testing? dev's job after getting prod numbers whitelisted. war room testing of modules? dev's job . let other teams know of changes? dev job. making a list of all tasks,all estimates and hourly time spent by a dev in a sprint? dev's job. What is the responsibility of qa team and EL?
6. in past 2 years I added 500+ commits, worked on 450+ small to large tasks and almost 99% of app's features are known to me. but in first year I broke my left arm and took a month wfh. In 2nd year i got stage 3 cancer and took 2 months sabbatical. all this made my contributions z my efforts as 0 and I never got any appreciation once.
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With all these issues, what else could i have done apart from putting papers? How much can I figjt the useless fights? I am not the loudest nor the most cunning person in thsoe rooms. And these 2 seems common attributes of both of those SSEs who got good leadership positions.
I am sorry I couldn't be a better fighter. I am tired of fighting : my life, my situation and now the fight to proove my worth in the only space that i am passionate and proud
rant