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Anyone out there been fired because their project manager had a personal problem with them and made them unable to complete their work?

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    Happened to my predecessor - a competent and nice guy, unlike our boss. So I was next on the radar.

    Usually, I'm nice, too, but boss mistook that as weakness while it actually was cover that bought me time for my own moves.

    Well, he should have fired me while he could - because I made sure that he didn't last.
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    @Fast-Nop yeah it's a tough spot to be in
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    @Fast-Nop fuck yeah, badass =)
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    @Fast-Nop did you let him run head first in dumb decisions? That's what I would do, if I had an incompetent boss
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    Yes.

    Also had another manager (we were equals) that only hired friends, but would harass and occasionally fire my employees. I couldn't fire his despite them being bloody useless and corrupt because he would flip his shit, and his friends would back him up and flip their shit, too. All of them would start badmouthing me everywhere and making me look like a bitch with personal grudges against all of them. After awhile that was indeed the case. If anything bad happened, they would blame me, my dev practices, or my devs. Sometimes publicly. After almost a year of this, I couldn't stand it any longer. I wrote an open letter to the company about all of the corruption and favoritism and other bullshit, posted it, and quit. Immediately after I posted the letter... guess who deleted it and removed it from the board? Yep. I'm talking less than two minutes.

    About a year later, some of the employees contacted me and told me I was right about everything I said was going to happen. The guy eventually replaced like 90% of the employees with his friends, none of them did anything useful, and they drove about half the customers away. The company was in shambles and failing hard.

    Oh well.

    I'm just angry that they refused to admit they were the cause.
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    @Root trust me I get that. Its a funny thing when they realize you're right the hard way 😂
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    @rutee07 that sounds awful. I haven't experienced that bad and I hope never to. My only experience is petty grudges and being condescending.

    Hopefully you are supportive to those coworkers and let them know they have someone to talk to. Sounds a lot like psychological abuse for manipulation.
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    @jonii that alone hadn't worked because he was not only an asshole, but refused to leave a paper trail and pushed the blame down the line. That's why my predecessor had failed.

    But I had years of industry experience with "corporate politics" so that I could project boss' moves and outthink him. Also, having read Macchiavelli was helpful to identify and leverage inofficial power structures.

    One day, he came to office and was told out of the blue (for him) that he was no longer boss and was moved to a completely irrelevant post with no disciplinary responsibility anymore. He looked as if someone had punched him in the stomach. :-)
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    @rutee07 Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" is a classic on strategy, still worth reading after 2500 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Also Eric Berne's bestseller on transactional analysis, "Games People Play": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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    @rutee07 The Prince 💚

    Sun Tzu's The Art of War is alright, but so doesn't compare.
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    @rutee07 Nothing tops Niccolò Machiavelli's The Prince. Nothing even comes close.

    I'll try to come up with some distant... tenth places.
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