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Awlex
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Way to fucking go, Austria wants to push a law that forces online platforms (if possible around the globe) with more than 100k users to provide an accurate way to identify them.
"Name, surname and adress"

I just listened to an interview with a guy who is for that proposal. He said the platforms can just take the data directly from mobile providers, using the phone number. Also, even buying a prepaid sim-cards will require you to provide an identity card.

Way to fucking go! They say it's rather unlikely that this proposal will get approved by the EU, but given the shit they just pulled on us, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest id these fuckers just go with it.

Where is our precious privacy going? Some old pedophiles are taking it away from us, into their sex dungeons I suppose...

Unfortunatelly this is a rather new proposal, so I can't find an english article covering this story attack
https://br.de/nachrichten/netzwelt/...

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  • 14
    Fucking stupid assholes. I want to watch porn, have cam sex or whatever without everybody knowing who I am. Wtf. Do people seriously think this will make anything better or are they just doing this to fuck the normal people into their butt?
  • 1
    Link is down
  • 1
    @b3b3 Thanks for the tip, I accidentally appended a character
  • 4
    I see anime, I upvote <3
  • 7
    The sim identification, is something we currently have for about over a year now. They can't share the info with just anyone though; but it's good to have for a whole lot of reasons.

    Dead numbers, locked out faster when having no identification.

    Prepaid Burner phones, can't be used for prank calling, mass texts or dealing drugs.

    It's the use cases of a using the system that have brought us to this anyway. The blame is on the {abusers} of the system imho
  • 4
    but like

    privacy
  • 5
    GDPR tho..
  • 5
    @xewl now the question occurs. Isnt Drug dealing a problem that has another root cause, just making it harder seems to not make the problem go away.

    Denying Prank Calling seems like a very weak reason to dimish "Freedom"(tm). I actually dont know what mass texts are, i guess you mean Spam?

    One way or another, there are still other EU countries where you can easily buy an anonymous SIM, do your thing and be done with it.
  • 2
    @BurnoutDV Ever had someone call you with an obfuscated/private number, you pick up, and nothing is said; you want to block them... resulting in: you can't :p
  • 3
    @xewl i got some calls from maziambique two years ago or so but they had a caller ID. I thought the robo call spoofed number with local area code thingy was more an US thing (i am not even sure if robo calling is even legal in germoney or the eu)

    So..that actually never happened to me, but i see how that could be annoying, but you know what else is annoying, getting raided by the secret police at three AM cause you said something in an SMS 5 years ago before the new goverment took place.

    As a german i might be a bit sensitive on that topic. But all in all its a balance between security and freedom. And with the trackrecord of goverment loosing Databases left and right i have absolutly no trust in a system like the austrian one. Its like an open buffet for anyone with the right prowess. Therefore its a bad idea to hoard data that can "easily" exfiltrated by third parties. Apart from power grabs later on.
  • 1
    @BurnoutDV It's legal in some cases. I know of 2 companies that do this to connect 2 persons via their system. Spoofing is most probably illegal when there's a case of abuse or any other situation..

    Given the current state of the phone network, it's even quite easy to do.. though, a carrier should be able to track the original carrier and connection that had requested such a call. But that takes resources and costs money to do..

    Regarding that SMS thing, isn't 5 years like a threshold where such things get shelved. But I get that, when gov goes loco, who's to say that they won't go the dictator approach and fuck you over anyway...... Inb4 World War #500803
  • 3
    This is already quite common in Belgium. All the way back in 2016 I think, a law was passed that requires SIM cards (including prepaid) to be registered by ID card. Each citizen can have a maximum of 10 SIM cards, ostensibly to combat cybercrime. What the government didn't realize is that it's super easy for those who want to do malice to just get SIM cards from the Netherlands, Germany, France and Luxembourg instead. Roaming is free after all. Or another thing that's fairly common for those kinds of cybercrimes.. VoIP. No SIM card required.

    Same thing as always.. locks only keep out the honest people. And governments are fucking ignorant and stupid.
  • 1
    @Condor In germany we need an ID too. I still have my old sim card without my ID attached to it. Then I wanted to get myself a new SIM (for better and more internet). I had to show my ID and rejected.
    But yes, you can easily just buy them from some neighbour countries
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