Been using more java lately (after like a year of not really touching it), determined to learn all the features j10 and up. Came to the conclusion that anyone who still thinks "java is verbose" is a fucking idiot.

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    It has improved a lot for the last few years. Still, Kotlin is much more concise.
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    I always thought they meant verbose because of all the ceremony it takes to do certain stuff. What with all the design patterns and stuff. But i agree man, the syntax does not call for it being called verbose.
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    @AleCx04 ever used Object::method? I just noticed that it exists and now i use it extensively
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    Good for you, I have to use J7 (it's a bank, of course )... lame
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