The type of company that should go to the same room in hell with Facebook.

Are you talking about ISPAUK or Mozilla?

Wait, what?

@gathurian I'm assuming ISPAUK since DNS-over-HTTPS would hurt their business by giving customers more privacy. Kind of scummy to try and make Mozilla look like the bad guy

When I see parental control I always think about government.

Those are only parents that are spying on me right now.

@gathurian Definitely ISPAUK. Sorry that it is not clear from my rant. I like what is Mozilla trying to do lately and DoH nice idea even tho there are some doubts about HTTPS security.

While I dislike DoH (for other reasons), the argument parental control is absolutely idiotic.

If the ISPAUK is (only) concerned about 'parental control', why didn't they list any VPN provider or Opera with integrated VPN? What the heck is wrong with them?

this would be funnier if it were a joke.

@sbiewald what's wrong with DoH?

@endor I dislike the idea of applications overriding OS settings - and only the OS should set DNS settings.

@sbiewald true, but you will be most likely able to disable it and hopefully it is going to speed up integration of such feature into operating systems

@lamka02sk I somehow doubt it will be ever integrated into the operating system:
- Slower than classical DNS (TCP+TLS handshakes take time)
- The OS (or system libraries) would have to understand JSON, TLS and HTTP/2 (HTTP 1.1 would be even slower).
- Not applicable for local networks (try getting a certificate for 192.168.178.1).
- A working certificate chain is required, which may or may not be available or might be outdated. It is hard to maintain for the OS in every case.