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If every company asks stuff like that, you'd get maybe one application per week done. This is ridiculous given that you will only take one out of how many, ten?
OK, I'm not a frontend dev, but anyway, I'd immediately skip the job ad and let others waste their time.
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@Fast-Nop Yes, and we used this approach with front end developers before. They demo stuf they did. And 3 out 4 we recruited were unable to write a single line of JavaScript. 4th wanted 4 days/week of work from home, so it’s a no go.
Btw, it takes about 1 hour to get the logic done, and “insert time you are willing to spend” to make it pretty. This is really : create 5 ajax requests and present results.
If we are paying $90k/year, the candidate can at least spend couple of hours :) -
@NoToJavaScript OK, if you are targeting the folks for whom it should be one hour, AND in turn spare them the time to come up with a carefully crafted cover letter with just the right dose of bullshit, then I have to revise my opinion.
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@Fast-Nop We don’t even need them to come see us. Cover letters ? what’s that ? Is it a copy paste thingy “I want to work so much in {0} !” personally I don’t even read or just glance on it. Resume ? I just look at highlight (Takes about 10 mins).
But I will spend 1 hour easily looking at good code someone send us. We had couple, unfortunately, we couldn’t help them with getting Visas (One from Brazil, one from Africa, don’t remember country).
And if you looked closely on the code, any junior dev should be able to do it in 2 to 3 hours. -
@NoToJavaScript That would be worth mentioning in the job ad - I mean that you don't expect cover letter stuff the usual way, but that you want to see code.
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@Fast-Nop We use Breezy and Welcome to the jungles for recruitment. So basically, people already filled theirs forms and we get it any way by email when some one applies.
This text is not in the initial announce. But we should add it I think. -
@Fast-Nop Oh and just for lolz, the first bullet point is exactlly 3-4 lines of code (Take 10 arrays, "join" them into 1, sort by lvl, slice first10)
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@NoToJavaScript Good idea, and also adding that it's one hour for a pro and 2-3 hours for a junior, pretty much at the top of the description.
And maybe also a short summary of the demo project at the top, not more than maybe two, three sentences. -
@Fast-Nop Oh thanks ! It’s a good idea ! Will add.
(It’s not visible, but here the second part of text. We prepared 2 projects to download, one node, one VS) -
@drac94 Depends on where the job is. In India, you'd be super rich with 90k, but in Silicon Valley, you might not even find an apartment.
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I think this project is great because it gives lots of room for creativity and innovation given the requirements. Hope you get some great solutions to look at.
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@beegC0de Trying to show you some, but onedrive Entreprise is sooo fucking shitty.....
It takes 5 seconds to download.... 1 (!!) 100kb file
We should've used personal onedrive -
Is it part of the test that the spec is so badly written it took me several tries to even understand what the point was?
It is completely understandable that English might not be your first language, but it is not understandable why you would not have an English-speaker edit the document for understandability.
You're focusing on how your interviewees present themselves to you -- but are you thinking about how you present yourself to your interviewees? -
@drac94 This part, I found it not productive.
I (Personally, but we tend to generalize of personal preferences) work WAY less efficient if I have someone standing over my shoulder. I think that each developer needs some space to work, take breaks and produce great stuf ! -
@tekashi can't do without pm ;p But I do a package
but without authentification helper. -
asgs112755yI'm not a front end developer and won't be able to finish this at all
But I enjoyed reading the problem statement. In fact, it didn't feel like a problem statement at all -
Much, too much.
I even didn't read the first two sentences, because the image not scaling on mobile devices. -
arriggon2345yHonestly, I find it to be a fun alternative to the normally overly formal application process! I coded the example on my train ride to my parents' in about 40 minutes, so I don't think it's too much to ask!
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@arriggon @NoToJavaScript Okay, have read through it on desktop. The idea is cool. Are you a game developing company?
Am I crazy to ask that ?
So looking for a front-end developper. This is a mini project I ask candidates to do.
Is it too much ?
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