Real life experiences developers, web developers and or designers! Please help.

I have been self studying for web development for almost 2 years. Even still, I'm too afraid to apply to jobs. I haven't built a solid project for a while because I'm losing hope. I know well beyond beginner html, css and JavaScript. What do I SERIOUSLY need to know before applying? Any suggestions? Concepts? Abilities? I think my girlfriend is losing faith in this choice I made as well. If I can't find a code job soon, I think I'm destined to find full-time work, anywhere.. and I only finished a 2 year degree.

Please help, fucking desperate.

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    What the fuck do you want to do in web? Web is also one of the worst and most saturated niches you could possibly choose as a developer

    Web is overrated. Web was only good to enter back in 2013, good luck with web in 2020+

    If u want to stay with web and get a job at every corner then learn angular 8 + spring which is a fullstack web and if you know that, you can basically code amazon v2.0 and be the next bezos

    If u wanna move from web then learn hybrid mobile apps or u know do whatever you love to do
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    Try learning react or vue and doing some projects with medium complexity with them. Just knowing Javascript isn't gonna be enough unless you are working on a legacy product. Even then companies usually try to hire over qualified people on paper.

    And start applying already. You will fail the first few times, and would know exactly what you need to learn. Every company interview process is different. Some interviewers are nice. Most are assholes. It's better to get the experience of getting interviewed now than later.
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    Scope up what companies in your area are looking for. Just read the ads. I was looking for a job a few months back and they ware looking for php, angular or react (or both angular and react) for frontend. Git was also nice to have if not mandatory. Html css and Javascript are mandatory for any hire.

    I suggest you build a small project and deploy it on github pages. A friend of mine built a small notes web app and deployed it to github pages and used it on interviews. You could do something similar.
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    Start interviewing. Remember questions that you couldn't answer well. Research. Repeat.
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    I personally got most of my jobs by show-and-telling my web hobby projects, rather than just telling them "Why yes, I have experience with Angular".

    It made me feel confident because I could just show off things I made, discuss why some choices were made and show a bit of passion.
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    Seriously start interviewing. Apply to jobs you're not fully qualified for (people rarely are) and show a willingness to learn.

    Go in with the mindset that you're just practicing. Don't get discouraged when you don't get the position, make note of the questions you're asked and use the interview as an opportunity to find the areas you're lacking in so you can better know what to work on.

    Be honest about your experience and knowledge, then be pleasantly surprised when you do land a job.

    Accept that you are going to be doing your current job for a while still, but still go to interviews.

    It wasn't until I decided to change my mindset that I landed my first coding job.
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    @bob2517 hey thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it. It helps! I thought about going to an agency too. I think I'll give it a shot.

    And for personal recommendations, I have none. I have no friends in this field at all, and I live alone on the city with my girlfriend. Opposite side of the state where my hometown is. It's just me, trying to learn web dev, and live out my life. But that being said, I am attending a small coding camp at the end of the month, which is more intimate, 15 people max, with a 5 hour in person workshop to practice what we learned. Hopefully, I meet people!
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    @stytches thanks for your comment, it helps keep me motivated! I'll take your suggestions seriously. 👌
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    @ggbot hey, thanks for your comment. I have heated from several YouTubers that the boring old weather, and Todo apps are bullshit. They won't get you anywhere. Is this true, or will these projects demonstrate your knowledge and abilities?

    Because I can easily build front end Todo and weather using react just from knowledge.

    Are these worth having on a portfolio? Or is it a MUST, that I have something more technical and real world?

    Thanks ahead 👌
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    @gronostaj will do, thanks!
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    @24th-Dragon I used to host my projects on heroku. Then I learned about git hub pages. But as I dived deeper, I found netlify. Which is what I use now. The cli is so much intuitive.

    What kind of projects are worth showing on a portfolio or interview? Are simply Todo apps, weather's apps suffice? As they demonstrate core principles. Or must I have projects more real world and much more technical?
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    @terriblecoder thanks for your comment. Well I definitely know html, css and basics of JavaScript. I mean I can manipulate the Dom, and do a few fancy things.

    I know react, I know why it works, the shadow Dom...etc.

    I can build basic apps like todos, weather's apps, job listing app etc . With the library. And host it.
    Are these sort of projects worth having on a portfolio and or an interview? They demonstrate abilities, bit I'm afraid they are too YouTube tutorial bullshit projects. So I'm not sure what to build. I can build more complicated projects, but I need to read guides or watch totirals to assist. So, they don't necessarily demonstrate skill.

    Thanks ahead 😊
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    @b2plane plan on learning Dart. What you think about that?

    But what do I want to do?

    We want to build website and web apps. As we progress towards towards more internet dependent world, I believe being a web developer is not fucked. Industry just requires more from them. I mean, progressive web apps will eventually best out native apps. It's seems that's the natural course we are heading. Native programs are old. I never seen a job posting for a native app developer. But instead jobs for electron, react native and angular native jobs.

    But what do you think about react? I much prefer it over than angular, because I appreciate a library over a full fledged framework.
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    @BreakfastFood never tried react before but people say react is much much simpler than angular, but however i keep seeing job offers for angular only way more than react

    Im learning flutter to build hybrid mobile apps. Flutter can also be used to build web apps I think. And it uses dart so i have to know dart. I like it and i think its worth learning, dart is extremely fast
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    @BreakfastFood since you don't have demonstrable work experience to write down on the resume, side projects are the best way to demonstrate you k ow your shit. If anything is hosted, or you have done any open source work, mention them on your resume. The resume will get filtered by HR and recruiting drones first. So the more relevant content you have, the better.

    I still mention every one of my side projects in my resume. And to this date, it helps going through the filtration process and some interesting conversation during the interviews.

    Never shy away by calling anything as noob project. Be polite when somebody asks about that project, and say "it might be very basic because I was starting to learn x technology. And trying this out as a spock seemed like a good idea. These are things I learned from them...". Steer the conversation to what you know and can have in depth discussion about. The issues you faced. How you resolve them. That should demonstrate your skills
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    @terriblecoder I hate the part of 'issues I have faced.' I never remember them? I don't record my problems in a logbook for later 👌 all great advice though, I'll will go through all my intermediate and noob projects.
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