In case anyone wonders why I am PC over mac, I just had a macbook pro crash on me under a load my HP POS I bought 3 years ago for $750 calls Tuesday.

The variables, they are so unbounded.

@SortOfTested I put my macbook (work computer) under significantly less strain than my HP (personal laptop). I never turn off the HP, have anywhere between 30 and 750 tabs open in chrome and firefox, mostly streaming sites, Visual Studio, several documents in acrobat and openoffice writer, and Microsoft media player. On the macbook I had maybe 20 tabs in chrome, was running a pretty weak vagrant vm, slack, and IntelliJ. Microsoft Teams killed it. Twice.

@projektaquarius
Maybe teams incompatibility? Dunno, seems like something else is going on. I constantly run localstack with docker-compose alongside elasticsearch, postgres, MySQL, mongo, minikube, virtualbox for podman, and webstorm, goland, intellij, rider, alacritty and vscode.

My Lenovo x1 extreme is a better laptop, but the mbp doesn't seem to have any notable issues.

@SortOfTested that is a strong possibility. Teams was forced on me yesterday and I am not happy about it. It was a bitch to get it set up on the macbook too. I have noticed that this macbook doesn't take stress well though. At least not dev stress.

@projektaquarius
Install iStats menu. That'll let you keep an eye on temperature aggregates. My husband had similar issues because he refuses to use the laptop sleeve in the backpack I bought him. It ended up open and baking several times. If someone gave it that treatment, it might be time for applecare.

@SortOfTested I will try that out. I mean this was out in the open on a table, but I have noticed the fan screaming while building and testing local.

@molaram apparently business requirements dictate use of macs. Which is irritating.

@molaram one day I will build my own PC. But I need to figure out my goals for it.

Honestly, I'd blame Teams more than the Mac. I've been using a Mac for work for about 8 months now and the only problems I've had with it were all caused by Teams.

Of course my old HP laptop had just as many problems with Skype for Business, so...maybe it's just a Microsoft thing.

@EmberQuill unless company has a specific need for macOS, I'd blame them :-p

@SortOfTested 3 ide's woah!!! I can't seem to think of a practical case where I'd need vscode, intellij and webstorm. I'm curious.

One does not just use 3 IDEs

Every proprietary software from Microsoft will be wonky shit

@molaram But can it run Sketch?

@TheAnimatrix
Five, actually. Vscode is my diff/merge tool/generic text editor on macos, we have small go apps for our infra, we have spring services/spark jobs, we have spas and we have dotnetcore APIs. I'm not really into mixing chocolate and peanut butter, so I use the standard project/workspace strategy for the given language/framework.

That's all not counting Android studio.

@molaram
Sketch is cheap XD. He likely tried to drunk text "scratch"

@SortOfTested Adobe Products certainly have their reason to exist. But for me, I like simple, close-to-tech design software that’s flexible for my customer and not a huge monolithic peace that’ll force specific opinions/patterns onto you. Besides, I think Adobe could do a better job of organizing actions in general.

Oh and it’s wayyyy cheaper

Been using macbooks for dev for almost 6 years now. Never done anything it couldnt handle.

@010001111
I don't care what it is as long as whatever my ux team outputs is immediately usable by our dev teams. The cost is negligible compared to their bill rate.

@projektaquarius
If the mainboard is damaged due to heat, that will happen. The downside of all the Ultrabooks is they are heat volatile. Depending on whether or not someone else had it previously, a pram reset may also be in order. Macs have a number of learning algos built into the firmware that can get bodged by adverse conditions.

I feel that. In my programing class, we use these dinky 2012 MBPs that can barely run Xcode, and they expect us to run simulators for full games... (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻