Dude's face looks like he's programming Java for his job. 😂

Does Visual Studio has any relevance as an IDE in the Java world?
Eclipse and IntelliJ exist. And with the shitloads of CPU power and RAM, today's developer machines provide, both are great IDEs.

I like VS code.

But it falls flat when it comes to refactoring OOP structures or analyzing them...

For simple stuff great, but VS code's lacking a deep analysis of code. Maybe haven't found the right plugins yet...

@Oktokolo it's about vs code not vs

@dontbeevil
So does the relevance of VS Code differ significantly from that of VS in the Java sector?

@IntrusionCM dunno man. Just found out using VS Code (well Codium in my case) a suitable simple C IDE for debugging and what not was easy af and it worked wonders for me.

Mind you I am using it for very basic C development learning so take that with a grain of salt. But I have use it for veeeeeeeeeeery large Node and PHP apps and it works well for it. I have also used it for medium sized VB/C# applications with no problems. Normally I would say that VS Code works well for most medium sized development tasks.

@Oktokolo I'm not expert but looks like yes, looks like people use vs code more than vs for Java ... of course still less than other IDES, but if they want a lightweight one is ok

@torbal
1- vs code is free, intelliJ is paid
2- I don't know is you code only in Java, does intelliJ supports all programming languages that VS code supports?

@torbal ok now ask to people that use VS code why they prefer VS code to NetBeans

@torbal linux fanboys / ms haters are so cute

@torbal i just noticed all your comments, not only his one.. Am I wrong or you wouldn't use anything from ms, and only linux-ish stuff?

@torbal probably i confused user, sorry 🙂

@dontbeevil the main reason why Java developers will seldom even attempt to use VS Code is that, as good as a text editor as it is, it lacks an awful lot of features that most, even the shittiest IDEs in Java, contain. IntelliJ is honestly one of the best, people complain about resource ussage, but most of us dealing with intelliJ (or anything in the JetBrains suite) are not coding in a 8gm ram underpowered laptop, but on our workstations. Also, being a company, they offer many promosions, much like @torbal my company pays for it, me using intelliJ does not come out of pocket.

Also, you get stuck trying to do something and don't want to fidget around user groups where some neckbeard will give you shit for asking a question? You set a support ticket and it will get answered in minutes (my experience with it at least)

For the very same reason, and even though I **love** Vim, I wouldn't use it for Java.