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rutee07
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I feel sick again. I wonder if it has something to do with the beggars harassing me on the rare occasions that I go outside to receive a delivery. The most recent one was a kid who tried to surprise me this morning. Just jumped in front of me with a "Hoy!" then asked for money then joked with "Ooh, you can't joke around, just woke up." This kid was crowding me.

He followed me all the way to the delivery man's position. The delivery man asked for my name, I said it, and the kid started calling me by name. This kid has no mask, by the way, and every time I put distance between us, he moves closer. The delivery man told him off several times.

This happened so many times. There was another instance where they touched my arm several times to get my attention (you can literally feel the grease on your skin) while their master-breeder mother confidently sits on a motorcycle (also without a mask) watching her money-makers do their thing. It's a fucking career choice here and it makes me angry. Parents spawn multiple children and send them off to harass workers and get money out of them. The people who actually work and do good for the economy gets sick or take in more stress than they already do with their real jobs while these motherfuckers sit there all relaxed and shit.

There was another time when a ladyboy (and I do not use that as an insult, it's an actual thing, you offense-craving, pseudo-worldly, ignorant fuck) chased me to the convenience store. He keeps trying to get my attention and asking for money. When I ignored him, he screamed, "You think you're so pretty?!" Dude, what the fuck? I swear, the shit that happens in this fucking country qualify as harassment but of course, you can't call them out because god loves the poor and if you even flinch when they touch you, you go to hell. Weird flex but okay.

These people rule everything. They are entitled to everything. They can harass anyone. The most annoying part is these aren't the real "poor". I grew up in a poor and criminal neighborhood and I've seen people CHOOSE "begging for money" as a career choice. There are even videos about some pretending to be disabled and then running fast when the cops appear.

I just fucking hate it so much how they make others sick and how entitled they are to everything. I'm not talking about the real poor, I'm talking about THESE people. The parasites of society. Now I don't even know what kind of shit I have. Hopefully, it's just terrible allergies. I just hope my boss doesn't freak out and pepper me with endless questions when I file a sick leave tomorrow. They are already paranoid about the virus.

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  • 3
    What country is this?
  • 3
    @alexbrooklyn The Philippines.
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    That's bollocks. Is it like that everywhere?! Guess there's no desire in the police for cracking down on the whole situation?!

    I'm all for helping the poor in society, but thieving isn't something that should be tolerated.
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    @AlmondSauce Sometimes security guards "shoo" them away but these days, there are more of them scattered around. They are usually in train stations. Now they gather where the deliveries happen because that's where most people go these days. I didn't have this problem when they still allowed delivery boys in the lobby.
  • 2
    @rutee07 That sucks. Sounds like they've created more issues by not allowing the delivery guys in.
  • 2
    @rutee07 that's awful.

    On many many many levels.

    Stay strong though. Don't let the scrum ruin ya.
  • 2
    How is it a delivery if you have to go get it
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    @electrineer My thoughts too but they don't allow people to come up to the resident's door or even to the lobby since the pandemic started. The delivery boys just wait outside the building.
  • 7
    Well, that wouldnt be a problem in Denmark, since begging is illegal here 🤣
  • 7
    @Frederick And you have hot blondes?! Fuck it, I'm moving!
  • 7
    @Frederick The downside is that your state steals the money from you (like 25% VAT) and hands it to them so that they don't have to beg.
  • 5
    @Fast-Nop And thats the story behind why i am a capitalist.
  • 1
    @Frederick so that's uh... If you can't get a job, just die?
  • 4
    @billgates Check Fast-Nop respond, people are actually getting paid by the state in Denmark, that goes for people without a job, so long thet are active looking for a job.
  • 3
    @Frederick so by being capitalist, your agreeing with that or not?

    Thought capitalist were all no taxes. Work for ur money or just die. No social safety nets.
  • 5
    @billgates Not all, i dislike the idea about expecting money from other people. Its not about the idea of letting people die, but rather i find it wrong to take away money from hard working people.
  • 4
    @Frederick but the most hard working people are paid the least. Most CEOs do not deserve the millions they get every year?

    Taxing if done correctly... Is supposed to even things out?
  • 4
    @billgates Most people CAN get a job. They don't WANT to get a job because doing nothing for welfare is more convenient that earning the same amount in a low paid job. That's the dark side of welfare.

    It's also why Germany heavily reformed its welfare system 20 years ago, to get those lazy asses kicked out of leeching.

    The ones who really can't, like because they're actually too disabled, are a minority.

    And then there are situations where you have way more unemployed people than jobs. The question then is why it is "normal" that those with jobs work 40 hours plus overtime instead of cutting down to 35 hours and split the overall work on more shoulders.
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    @billgates I will not be the judge if its makes sense morally, but logically it makes pretty good sense many of the CEOs are paid after what they are expected to make for the company.

    Just to be clear, i am in favor of stuff like workers have to be paid decently (and not under paid). But over all i dont mind people being paid millions of dollars.
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    @Fast-Nop well the last one about over time is probably because they need the money sorta like uber. They don't make enough normally to pay rent and stuff.

    Basically it tells like the whole economics system has to be reformed except well.... that's not going to happen. Just look... We got Trump as President.... And he couldn't be impeached....
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    @Frederick but take Pichai, not sure how much he is paid but how much more effort, sweat, late nights for he have compared to a senior dev or I guess someone in Finance, cleaning services.

    It basically I think it's just the Ginni Factor and well there's an inequality, wealth gap. CEO makes 500x what the average worker makes. He takes a shit on company time and he technically just made someone's yearly salary...
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    @billgates It's not about needing more money. It's because there's more work to do and the companies refuse to hire people. Instead, the ones with work basically work more just to feed those who are unemployed.

    And of course Trump was not impeached because lefties not accepting the election result and refusing to re-adjust their political offers isn't reason for impeachment.
  • 2
    Eh. I've also noticed more homeless people sleeping around the town than usual on occasions I have to go further than next block for shopping.

    And a 25% tax still hasn't helped that situation. 😛

    Tho, the child labor thing is really disgusting. Specially when it comes to works like begging or prostitution. On the occasion you do go out, maybe give them something healthy and fulfilling to eat in exchange for them keeping their distance. Poor things have a low life expectancy anyways, as well as spending half their lives in jail because they were never taught right from wrong.
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    @Fast-Nop I used to talk to someons from Germany who used to rant about some immigrants coming to their country and then relying on welfare. He said all he had to do is get a diagnosis that he's depressed or something that makes him unable to work and he can live off welfare. He said the idea demotivates him to work but he did eventually started working because "welfare men don't get young pussies" and he "can no longer afford international trips to fuck various women". 😄

    On the other hand, I talked to someone from Norway who see no flaw in this welfare thing. I'm not sure how great things are there but people abuse what they can. Even here, it's almost expected that if someone earns more, they would pay more or give free stuff to people. It doesn't matter if the person receiving the money is totally capable of working or if they use that money for booze and gambling.
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    @NoMad The sad thing here is they don't accept food. Hahaha, choosy. The "real poor" ones would and are often thankful for it but the "professional beggars" would take nothing less than cash and would say something if they think you can give them more but you're holding it back.

    Some have upgraded their business model and started going into buses, showing pictures of sick relatives, and telling people they need money for treatment. It's impossible to commute for a week without encountering one of those. If it was a start-up, oh boi. 😄
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    @Fast-Nop yes and no. The problem is the training period. And depending on who your trying to help, it could turn out you hire an idiot that ends up taking more time to train and still not capable of doing the work.

    So now you've wasted the original persons time and given him more useless work.

    I actually have that situation. Had a task I don't have time to do so delegated it to someone else. But then spent probably 4hrs tital going over the details and checking his code...

    If I weren't super busy with a new project that needed to be released this weekend, I could probably get a POC up in 2hrs.

    The only thing is I don't want to support it in production or do the grunt work and testing that should be done to to make sure the details are correct. Also it's a part of a larger system that I need to train someone else to take over. I will be focusing on that this week now that my project was just released.

    A few weeks ago, when I was delegating it, it took me maybe 20mins to figure out the gist/general solution given what **I** already know. But explaining just enough details to get someone else to do it took 3hrs... And ended with go figure out the missing details. Here's what I expect given X.

    Currently the test case fails...
  • 2
    @billgates Yeah, it makes sense for the companies, but nobody else. That's where the government needs to make the rules so that profit and common interest align.

    Possible solutions would include cracking down more on black labour, getting rid of illegal immigrants (who work only through black labour) (oh, Trump does that), cracking down on unpaid overtime as crime (tax withdrawal), and making tax punishments so that it's clearly more expensive for companies to have let's say 7 people at 40 hours than 8 at 35 hours.
  • 3
    @rutee07 even in Germany there are criminals like that ...

    I don't have a car, so I travel mostly by bus / train.

    Mostly at central stations, you'll have "the pleasure" of meeting such scum.

    Even worse people hang out at the stations with a doctor who's legally authorized to distribute methadone...

    Seeing someone at 8:00 clock in the morning downing a vodka bottle while screaming all sorts of insulting gibberish is not uncommon...
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    @rutee07 I know, I've encountered a few of such groups while traveling. The younger kids won't understand such things and so feeding them works. But those above 12-13 (who are usually younger looking due to malnutrition) usually are the most annoying ones and are actually motivated for the job. Aside from telling them stuff like I don't have money for rent or for going back home and begging them in returnt to give me money, I have not found a way to deal with them.
  • 5
    On a side note, if you're feeding them, do so discretely because parents do make a scam of you poisoning their kids.
  • 5
    @billgates Well as i could find from a fast google search, its $2 millions, i dont find it unreasonable at all, CEOs unlike what many think do actually work more hours than "just" 8 AM - 4 PM, most of their time do involves work, he has also proven to in charge of successfully google projects. Its probably also harder to replace the CEO, dont get me wrong i am not saying replacing good engineers isnt hard, but i bet google does have a longere list of applications from engineers than CEOs.

    Also google seems to paid their engineers around the 100K+ price range, as welll as giving a lot of work benefits to their employees.

    Its just about its more likely the CEO has a bigger impact as a individual (not to devalue any of the enigneers etc at all).

    Also one single wrong decision from the CEO could easly make googles shares drop a lot.
  • 2
    @Frederick tea $2mil ain't to bad but it's that the base?

    I'm was thinking CEOs where their total comp is like $40-50 million
  • 2
    @billgates Well i do think the reasons why we are seeing those insane numbers, are due to some CEOs have large stock options in the company itsself.
  • 1
    @Frederick few years old... https://equilar.com/reports/...

    But in the end money is money... The likelihood those $40mil evaporating to 0 is tiny. Even if it goes to $10mil. That's still sometimes yearly salary and well that someone probably lost their jobs by then.
  • 3
    @IntrusionCM Damn, good morning to you. The only sort of good thing here is that the president is strict with drugs or something similar. I have not seen anyone wandering around looking high even on rugby or glue since his time began.

    There aren't much morning drunks too, probably because it's too hot to drink in the morning anyway. The downside is you get greasy palms and fingers touching you if you choose to ignore them.

    For the beggars who accept food, there are times when they would block your way and chase you around even as soon as you bought food. It doesn't matter if the person they are chasing is a student or they don't have much money as well. You buy some food for yourself and barely even taken a bite and it's theirs, they will not leave you alone until you give it to them.
  • 5
    @NoMad I have never heard of that scam. Jesus Christ, so many ways to screw other people for money.
  • 3
    @rutee07 I just thought of those signs in the parks or in the cartoons of parks that read "Do not feed the birds"...
  • 2
    @rutee07 I once fell prey to the handkerchief scam. The beggar ran through the metro compartment and handed out packages of handkerchiefs. Then he ran around again and asked for 1 EUR (which he hadn't announced earlier).

    I was so impressed by the cheekiness that I actually gave him the money, reasoning that he was at least smart enough to have duped me.

    Of course, that worked only one time. From then on, I didn't touch the packages.
  • 2
    @rutee07 that doesn't happen here....

    At least not that I'm aware of.

    Yeah.... Your president is a lovely lunatic (sarcasm).

    While there's certainly not everywhere solidarity, I've made the experience that when your neighbors know you and you know your neighbors, you are perfectly fine.

    (as in: ask for help, you'll get help)
  • 2
    @billgates Hahaha. They do behave like that. 😄
  • 4
    @rutee07 desperate times, desperate measures. But there are some who are outright evil. I have even heard of parents that throw their kid in front of some girl's car, just so they could make more money. Kid survived and went into a coma and for six months, this poor girl was paying hospital fees. Ofc, they didn't get the money they wanted and I'm anxious to know if they ever did it again and managed to get the kid killed.

    Btw, social services don't do jackshit in that country.
  • 3
    @billgates I think one of the problems with CEOs etc when a company is in a crisis is, you cant usually lower their pay due to their contracts, so the would only leave the company to fire them, which is pretty unlikely since you wont fire the CEO in a crisis unless the CEO is at fault for the crisis. It would probably be a hell to hire new CEO in crisis also in most cases makes everything worst.

    Honestly i have huge sympathy for people who loses their job, but it is realistically easier to fire the workers. Is it fair? no, but realistically i dont think we can do anything about sadly.
  • 4
    @NoMad Honestly that makes me sick asf, i cant describe how much it makes me wanna vomit.
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    @Frederick CEOs don't bear any risk and therefore no responsibility. They get more in termination pay after having done a bad job than e.g. a nurse earns in her whole life. It's the workers who have to bear the consequences, not the CEOs.

    Solution: people with a salary above some 500k to 1M annually should be all in with their private property, and insurance against that should be outlawed. Then we're talking responsibility because there are personal consequences.
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    @Fast-Nop I am openly against those insane shitty termination pay, when some high up executive getting fired. It has never made sense some higher up would get a termination bonus, for not being able to do their job correct. Specially in state owned companies where it happens a lot.

    But it would probably be way harder to outlaw it in private owned companies.
  • 3
    Ha, beggars. That's a term I haven't heard in a long time.
  • 1
    @SortOfTested I wanted to say "peasants" but I reserve that for people in general who piss me off. Plus, it reminds me of the script I heard my classmates use for a play over and over again. It goes like this:

    "I'm an actor but not an ordinary actor. I can pose like this, this, and this. I can act like a beggar! Alms, alms, please give me a piece of bread."

    After that awesome acting, everyone in my grade school class claps and that student becomes a star. You can say we were trained for this. 😄
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    "I've got a knife"
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