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  • 6
    Ah, "Choice" indeed
  • 2
    Nice, probably doesn't have border radius
  • 5
    "WinTerial with metrosauce"
  • 5
    @SortOfTested I love how everybody except journalists, after all these years, are still saying "metro".
  • 10
    @theuser
    It really has become the standard tongue in cheek reference to how Microsoft never had an never will "get" usability.
  • 6
    @SortOfTested they should call it the microsoft paradox: the least usable OS but with the most installs
  • 5
    @SortOfTested
    From Windows 95 to Windows 7, usability was actually quite good.
    It is shit like ribbon menus/toolbars and wizard-like system settings where you have to carefully investigate to find anything, wich started to make Windows usability hell. And while the new Windows 10 UI would probably be great on a PDA or "smartphone", i really don't like it on the Desktop.

    Anyone have a Linux distro for gaming to recommend?

    I will probably have to get rid of Windows 7 on my game in the future but don't want to go full Gentoo (my main PC distro) there. Will also definitely not install a *buntu as Canonical is trying to become the new Microsoft.
  • 3
    @Oktokolo
    The ultimate in usability will always be

    > _
  • 1
    @Oktokolo The worst example I currently know about is the standard sidebar menus they use. They feature both an icon and a label for each item. When the sidebar is open, you will normally read the labels in order to find the right thing to click on, but once you make the view smaller, they will only show the icons which is useless because you're not actually familiar with them.
  • 1
    @SortOfTested

    "how Microsoft never had an never will "get" usability"

    I have decided that you are actually a cat. A high functioning cat, but a cat still the same. ;-)

    This is why we can't has nice things...
  • 1
    @Demolishun
    *Laughs in catnip and OS that has no ads*
  • 0
    @SortOfTested
    I use command lines for administration and some development-related tasks.
    But i like having a GUI for most other tasks.
    I like being able to click on links instead of having to tab to them and press space. I also like having actual graphics in my games (never played Dwarf Fortress for that very reason)...
  • 1
    Yeah that's why icon fonts just suck. If you want an icon, use a fucking SVG, if you want typography, use a goddamn font but never, ever turn to that stupid chimera. Icon fonts will be long forgotten in 5 years and the creators will cover in shame!
  • 1
    @Intronout Yeah right. Compare woff2 and svg in size, the same set of shapes with woff2 is 8 - 10 times smaller (about 3 - 5 times if you have gzip compression enabled). Then you use the same icon several times across the page, and your DOM grows significantly. Oh, and since icons are often used with text, aligning baseline is something svg icons can't do without explicitly including that data for each icon in CSS.

    Bonus: you can use ligatures with icon fonts, you write 'apple' and user will see an icon of apple, but for all other purposes (copying text, search engines, screen readers, ...) it's just a regular, easy to understand word.
  • 0
    You build them in svg/ttf and than for web woff2 and woff should work everywhere
  • 2
    @Oktokolo Drauger OS but it's pretty alpha
  • 1
    @Oktokolo I'm fairly certain that any Debian based distro will work. I've also seen a "Gaming Arch" one somewhere on the Internet. I'll try to find it

    Edit: Found it (I've never tried it):
    https://gamer-os.github.io/

    @SortOfTested "Oh nuh! You're missing an eye!"
  • 2
    @Jilano
    That gamer-os looks extremely Steam-centric. I don't even have a Steam account.

    But yeah, "just go Debian" was my first thought too. It's probably the most stable and everyone tests on it.
  • 2
    I agree too that Windows 95 to 7 were good.

    I remember how the internal conflict inside Microsoft, between the C team and the C# team end up with the later winning, then we got Windows 8, and it was instantly shit.
  • 0
    @Oktokolo "anyone has a Linux distro for gaming?"
    Hahahahahahhahahhaa
  • 1
    @Oktokolo drauger has playonlinux and lutris integrated.
  • 1
    @cafebabe
    Goooo on. 🍿
  • 0
    @frogstair
    We aren't in the 90s anymore.
    All of the games i tend to always come back to, have a native Linux executable and even nVidia's drivers are reported to work fine now.
    There also are rumors, that Proton is the new Wine and actually works - so i would also keep the option of playing some of that AAA games, wich are included in my Skidrow subscription...
  • 0
    @Oktokolo im pretty sure serious AAA gaming on Linux is still not a thing. All you have at the moment is indie games that are compiled for Linux
    And using something like Proton or Wine really hinder performange
  • 0
    @frogstair
    I scrolled through ProtonDB and it seems, that in general, games i like to play are also games wich run native on Linux or have at least silver+ status on ProtonDB.
    The impact of Proton/Wine also is rumored to be a few frames - wich would probably kill Kingdom Come Deliverance for me. But other games would still run fast enough.
  • 1
    @frogstair The main problem still is useless DRM and anticheats. And since most AAA come bundled with that shit, they run a lot worse on Linux than little indie games.
  • 1
    @Jilano Another problem is plugins. I was trying to run Oblivion in Linux. I was using OBSE with the game (1st level plugin). Then I tried running it with an OBSE plugin (2nd level plugin). It would fail. Come to find out there is a technical limitation in Linux itself preventing this scenario. I am guessing this may not have changed. Not sure. However, I run Skyrim and use SKSE. SKSE has its own plugins.

    From a modders perspective Linux was a non-starter.
  • 2
    @Oktokolo

    I've had a good time with arch so far.
  • 0
    @theuser TIL im a journalist. For me it's just FluentUI.
  • 0
    @Oktokolo I will go with rolling release distro - Arch, Manjaro. I heard about Pop OS as quite nice, but I didn't try it.

    I am quite satisfied with gaming on Manjaro, but mostly Steam, GOG and Origin for Fiancé
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