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I'm working with a PM for the first time in my 10 year career. I'm happy to have a buffer between myself and the client. lol Anybody else?
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My PM is wonderful. It's part of his job to make my life go more smoothly, and he does. My client certainly does a lot of the things people on here complain about their PMs doing. My PM tries to push back against the bad behavior.
I think part of being a good PM is trying to make developers happy and effective, and so the PMs that people complain about on here probably aren't good PMs. -
@zornslemma @shittywebdev Agreed. But from my experience, you often get PMs who understand very little about what they're managing. When they do, it's their bosses who don't.
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Well I don't even have that. I started my job 3 years ago as a second web developer and as a member of the marketing team.
http://tapsla.sh
I somehow managed to go from a single man writing spaghetti PHP to leading the charge on implementing an 18 month development timeline, managing $800,000 in AdWords, connecting a MSSQL server to our LAMP server via VPN with a DreamFactory API layer on top to retrieve query responses. -
@lquessenberry you are proving my point that a good team can self organize and without a pure project management role that is usually hired by upper management to wrangle devs, who they think cost too much anyway.
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I've never had a PM before since I was a freelancer for 5 years prior to this position. I took that "I'm the boss" mentality into my position now and my supervisors mostly just get out of the way once I lay out a course of action. The way I look at it is that they have no clue how to do it so they're not going to interfere. I always include strengths and weaknesses in the plan and use that to assign roles from each team member accordingly but i'm not the PM either. We just work in harmony.
I am glad to see all the pent up anger toward project managers. I quietly rage against them daily. I have even made up acronyms like "LIS" for "like I said", "DBR" for "Drive by requests" and "OSR" for "one sentence requirements". I write them on my white board and the don't know what it means.
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