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What is better for a Junior position front end or backend? I like both and I don't want to apply to full stack positions cause it's exhaustive and salary not worth it and not good as a starting point for a dev journey.

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    start in frontend, I found it to be harder
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    Different people's careers play out differently.

    I do run into more backend folks who are great at their job, but they've sort of settled in and don't want to bother with the weird world of front end.

    I sympathize, but they also get frustrated when they have to dip their toes into it... might have been better to start there to at least get some time with it earlier?

    Granted everyone is different.
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    @JhonDoe I want to build a solid foundation in programming around the javascript ecosystem, is it really the better path?
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    @N00bPancakes I get your point and it makes sense. I am not a master of css. But when using UI framework or a simple design with flex I get the job done. Should I really?
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    Look for big companies where you can do rotations among teams - lots offer this, especially at a junior or intern level.
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    @AlmondSauce Your idea seems interesting do you know bog tech companies in Germany?
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    @JhonDoe Ironically I found backend to be harder lol. Maybe just because I started by learning html/css and got all the way into JS frameworks before I started learning backend development, and maybe also because my work uses Springboot, but I find UI work to be far less challenging.
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    @CoffeeSnake I plan to work on javascript jobs only. I am pretty familiar with backend stuff databases, nodejs, express, session management etc... . I have some experience with reactjs, angular. I find it hard to position stuff with css xD.
    Sometimes I think backend because it would open for opportunity to learn some devops stuff and other programming languages like rust and python. I have been in this rabbit whole for awhile. I think I am sweating it by overthinking about it.
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    @AlmondSauce Anyway Thanks the advice!
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    @DocFlow I'm an angular dev, went into front right as an intern right out of college and went to junior then mid level. I like Angular, though I can understand why some might not lol.

    Also don't worry, everyone has trouble positioning things with CSS. After 5 years doing CSS through various internships, jobs, and projects, I still sometimes just scroll through properties and values to "see what works" haha
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    @CoffeeSnake @CoffeeSnake Hahaha, I don't hate angular but I don't like it. I find myself alot more about javascript with react.
    Yeah maybe I havd been paralyzed by the fact I am bad at css. I should give it a try if I come across a frontend position, thank you mate.
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    @DocFlow Anytime. If you're up for a real challenge that will prove beneficial to any framework, I'd recommend the book series "You Don't Know JS" and the book "Eloquent Javascript". Both are free online.

    If you're more receptive to videos, the video series on Udemy titled "JavaScript: Understanding the Weird Parts" is really good.
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    @CoffeeSnake I do have the udemy course and I plan to watch it after grasping the fundamentals. Yeah you don't know js a dood series of books that I didn't read too. Thanks for the suggestions! Have a nice day!
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