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If a person doesn't want sex but you still have sex with them that's rape.

If a person doesn't want sex but you spike their drink with ecstasy for them to instantly want sex that's also rape.

If a person doesn't want sex but you build trust and eventually make them among other things want you that's not rape, that's relationship.

One chemical imbalances inside your head makes you a gay person and that's completely okay but some time ago it was a crime. Other chemical imbalances inside your head makes you a pedophile and that's not okay and it IS a crime.

There is emancipation. If a child is emancipated and gave explicit consent is it still pedophilia?

Real life is a conceptual hell.

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  • 21
    Children can't give consent, same with adults under the influence.
  • 3
    @rutee07 emancipation is act of giving full legal rights or capacity to a child so if they still can't give consent that's a contradiction
  • 16
    @uyouthe An important point you missed (not necessarily on purpose): Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's moral.
  • 4
    @uyouthe emancipation has no legal basis whatsoever. It's a way of thinking about things, nothing more.^^
  • 1
    Welcome to the real world! It sucks!
  • 0
    @nitwhiz yes it has
  • 1
    Legally the real world is actually quite simple. There's grey areas, but not really in any of the areas you outlined.

    Morally, as already pointed out, it's a different story, and the two don't always line up. It's completely illegal for someone who's been driving for 20 years with no convictions to go 5mph above the limit sober on a deserted road - but no law stopping someone who's just passed their driving test downing a pint or two, staying just under the legal alcohol limit and then doing the speed limit in rush hour traffic.
  • 7
    As previously stated, a human below the age of consent, cannot give consent by law.
    So, eventhough a 15 year old might say "fuck me", the fucker would still land in prison as a sex offender.
    The law has a simple reason:
    Underage humans do not have the mental capacity and experience to solely decide what is good or bad for them and they lack awareness of what could happen. It is trying to protect them from severe consequences. Underage people are quite gullible or easily manupilated.

    The question is, why would an older person want to have sex with a minor? Relationships should not be mainly about sex, especially in this age area.

    And about pedophiles:
    Pedophilia is a disorder because its victims are not fully able to make decisions about their own lifes and pedophiles use their victims' gullibility for the fulfillment of their own goals without any concern about the minor.
  • 1
    @PonySlaystation E M A N C I P A T E D

    E-MAN-CI-PA-TED

    EMANCIPATED

    EMANCIPATED CHILD

    E M A N C I P A T E D

    "Depending on jurisdiction, a child may be emancipated by acts such as MARRIAGE, attaining economic self-sufficiency, obtaining an educational degree or diploma, or participating in a form of military service. In the United States, all states have some form of emancipation of minors."
  • 1
    @uyouthe USA is fucken weird. So you can marry a 35 yo as a 15 yo? Or have a diploma? Or any of these things?

    Am I economically self-sufficient if I'm homeless as a 15yo?
  • 0
    @nitwhiz emancipation is some kind of legal thing that is determined by some person of power.

    So you can't fuck a child but if some guy with power explicitly give that child a permission it becomes completely legal, so having sex with children isn't as harmful as it seems because if it was there'll be no such thing as emancipation and that kind of intercourse would be strictly illegal. That's what I'm talking about. You're either criminal or not for the exact same act, and there is some guy with power who gets to decide
  • 2
    @uyouthe I too read the Wikipedia article (the introduction, at least), but you'd need to dive into legal documents of each countries to know exactly what it entails.

    Just because an emancipated child can take some decisions regarding certain aspects of his life doesn't immediately means that he's to be considered an adult in everything.
  • 0
    @Jilano marriage though
  • 3
    @uyouthe You sound pretty obsessive about this topic...
  • 0
    @PonySlaystation yes I fucking am. Not because of children but because of conceptual impurity. Nice joke though, you’re today’s funniest comedian 👍
  • 4
    @uyouthe What joke?
  • 1
    I believe it’s a judge that can emancipate a child, so not just a man in power, but actually a representative of the law.

    So law can give exception based on circonstances and in good intelligence, that doesn’t seems illogical to me.

    That being said, being an adult in US is 18yo I believe, but alcohol and tobacco is illegal before 20. Same would probably apply, the emancipated child is considered adult but it might be illegal to have consensual sex outside marriage.
  • 0
    It's only a problem when you try to be platonic about it and want your institutions to pretend that life is an algebraic structure.
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