Microsoft Visual Studio was made using Microsoft Visual Studio

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C compiler is written with C

and yet it feels like it was made using a bunch of monkeys lobbing stones at a keyboard.

@gibus that must be why its so good.

I must have used at least 20 different types of IDE’s over the last 34 years and while VS can be a bit slow its still one of the most powerful I have ever used.

So? Never heard of bootstrapping?

@iiii Boot? Strapping? Yummy!

@Voxera my guilty pleasure in linux using workplace. I fucking miss VS 2019, the ultimate IDE.

@Voxera i totally agree, since i touched vs and c# i never looked back

@aviophile gcc C compiler is now written in C++

mvs => made in something else initially.

non-mvs compiler => made in mvs => in turn made in something other than mvs.

so the question is have they recompiled mvs *with* one of the compilers *made in mvs*?

@dontbeevil 100% agree with you

@aviophile but just like VS c was first compiled with a compiler written in B whos compiler was written in BCPL.

More info in the answer to this SO question.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions...

Once you have a first compiler you write a new one in the target language to remove dependency of the other language.

The C# compiler was for a long time written in C++ and only with the new roslyn compiler has C# been bootstrapped into compiling its own compiler.

@Voxera wait... so C# compiler is not native but relies on .net as well???

@iiii the roslyn compiler is written in c# or vb depending on which target language you want.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

And it uses .net core I think, not .net framework

@Voxera all I've had in mind is it not being native code at all.