Person: *has issues with bots* (probably just stuff like Google's crawler n stuff)
People trying to "help": "Use CloudFlare"

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Could you all please bugger off with CloudFail?

Cloudfailure rhymes better.

Depends on kind of website, Cloudflare can prevent DDOS but ruin usability.

What do you have against cloudflare?

@87percentrum "yes."

All jokes aside, here are some things I hate about it:

- It promotes a centralized web, which in term can help promote censorship. Additionally, it means the web as is can also get crippled if they have an issue (may I remind of the 17th of July 2020?).

- It's a massive MITM attack (due to the nature of their TLS and the architecture of it as a while), whether they do something with it is a different story ofc.

- Cloudflare forces your site to add some tracking cookies.

- Cloudflare tends to show this hideous captcha even to legitimate users.

All-in-all, CloudFlare's monopoly is quite dangerous...

@FinlayDaG33k Right on bro.

yeah the MITM thing was a deal breaker for me too. Didn't give it any thought until I had to use pma somewhere and cloudflare popped up saying something about not being able to send queries or something... also never used pma ever again.

@87percentrum I used cloudflare for years but after I started to get more educated on the subject of it, I felt less and less comfortable running my visitors through it.

When they went down on the 17th of Juli 2020, that was the drip that made the bucket spill...

The next day, I had my own DNS server running and made my visitors connect pretty much directly to my websites, no MITM.

Can't say I regret it either.