Rant from my old company:

CEO decided he could cut costs by outsourcing to cheap devs in other countries.

Does this, the new hires are super incompetent. We're now paying for a whole team that is adding work cause they keep fucking up.

Leadership is super happy with the "savings" (which is basically just the team here working harder to fix everything).

All the smart people start leaving, leading to a downward spiral.

Last I heard, one of my junior co-workers had been promoted to senior (he hardly had any coding experience).

Fuck them all

Happened to me twice. I was at two companies, ten years each. Both of them went down that route and laid off devs in other teams. Those of us who were left were kept because of our knowledge and experience to supervise and mentor the offshore replacements

They were totally useless and ultimately standards and expectations of the companies were lowered so much that they became depressing places to be, populated with developers who had their professional pride and ambitions ground out of them and were only turning up to get paid. I left both jobs, it was a hard decision but those working environments can damage you.

The second place had a director that said he would rather pay them twice to get work done much slower than pay onshore dev prices to get work done fast.

You’ll get through it, with enough time things will hopefully go full circle and new managers will come in and try to undo the damage. But don’t let yourself be deskilled or demoralised, if that starts then get out

@TrevorTheRat it was just an internship for me, maybe 4 years ago at this point.

I always thought there was exaggeration about those kinds of offices.

But we even had stuff like regular meetings with the leadership to assure us everything was ok. Meanwhile all the smart people were leaving.

I'm so glad I work at a nice place now.

Ah didn’t notice you had said it’s your old company.

Huh. We are standing at the beginning of the same road. I hope we will be able to find qualified cheap dev. I mean we wish to outsource only frontender, what could possibly go wrong.

It should be possible to find just one front-end dev with high standards, right?

@darkwind well, in my experience, good devs manage to get visas and come to north america rather than work for peanuts overseas.

(Obviously not true in all cases but I think if you pay peanuts you'll get monkeys.)

@YADU xd, I am in the process of getting visa to go to north america too.

My country is a country of cheap devs too, economics just give twice better salaries, but they are still quite small

I think too, what didn’t notice you had said it’s your old company.

I feel you. Whenever management says there's another dev (probably incompetent or inexperienced or both) joining my team and expects our productivity to go up, I shiver.