God i love intellij. Who the fuck still uses eclipse in 2023?

I’ve recently switched from vs code to IntelliJ idea (new UI). Can’t say love it, can’t say I hate it either. IntelliJ lovers seem to think some of its powerful features only exist on IntelliJ, when in fact there’s usually an equivalent on vs code.
Also the people at jetbrains don’t seem to be too receptive to user requests (I’ve seen responses along the lines of "why would you want that??" for perfectly valid requests). Things evolve much more quickly with vs code and you don’t have to wait monts or even years for simple things to be released.
You’d expect for a paid IDE you would get better service and replies from the people building the product

Who the fuck still uses intellij in 2023?

Self.triggered(by: "shit-on-eclipse-rant")

Still use it everyday for everything I do, do not regret it. I see a lot of my colleagues struggling to do git operations in vscode, admitted it's a rtfm-pebcak issue for most of their cases but still.

@NeatNerdPrime

Wait, so your colleagues use GUI to do git? That’s really not the IDE problem.

@AndroidJester VSC is free. No need to use intellij if you’re a student. Unless you prefer it.

LOL Are you actually paying for that slow-sluggish memory hogging JVM running shit

@yehaaw yeah they do cause a git bash terminal is something terrifying apparently....

@yehaaw Git is garbage. Git's CLI is garbage squared. But IDEA's Git GUI makes it all okay 99% of the time.

@fzammetti

How is it garbage? The only people I’ve heard this from are college fresh grad’s or lazy dev’s who don’t want to learn the commands.

I’m not saying you’re one of them but well you know.

@NeatNerdPrime

RIP

@sajanpaul No i use it yearly for free because they offer it for free to students

Eclipse is the worst piece of software ever made.

@yehaaw It's an over-engineered mess that overcomplicates the lives of many (probably most) developers even though they just seem to accept it (largely out of hero-worship, I suspect). To be clear, it's fairly clever internally, but why should I care about that? It's a tool that's supposed to make my life easier. The user interface is what truly matters and it's just atrocious (talking CLI here). It's so bad that it's very easy to get into a state where the best solution is the old "copy off your changes, delete the repo, re-clone, copy changes in, and sacrifice a goat before trying again" approach. The information model is overly complex, the whole thing is a leaky abstraction, there are several ways to destroy a repo (any SCM should ALWAYS be safe) and history is always a mess in any repo of even modest size. For reference, I've been a professional dev/architect for 26+ years now, been using Git for many years, so definitely not an uninformed opinion.

@AndroidJester Looks interesting, I'll check it out. Thanks!

@red-knot new UI? Do you mean fleet? That stuff is barely alpha.