I fucking hate my job so much. I feel like I work harder than anyone at my level, yet I can't get promoted. I'm so fucking sick of putting in effort for nothing. We all get paid really well, and yet no one seems to give a shit about the work. Meanwhile I'm busting my ass, for what? No promotion.

For promo to next level, the projects I work on aren't supposed to matter, just the execution. And yet, I get told I don't have enough impact when I'm interested in promo? How can I, I have no fucking choice what I work on you fuckers.

Fucking bullshit job.

Getting promotion has nothing to do with working hard but with good negotiating, face it.

@horus > "Getting promotion has nothing to do with working hard"

And your ability (or inability) to be the 'yes man'

Don't put your value in what other's think of you. Always do your best regardless of getting or not getting a promotion, raise, or whatever.

Integrity is what people will see in you, not your title.

> I feel like I work harder than anyone at my level, yet I can't get promoted.

Here's the secret - once you get beyond a certain point, being promoted has little to do with working harder, or even being good at what you do. It's about *convincing management* that you're so good at what you do, they'd have a torrid time replacing you - so they need to keep you happy.

It sounds the same as just working hard, but it's not. It's about finding something your manager, or manager's manager genuinely values, and then proving you can do it better than anyone else. That might be disaster recovery. Might be leading a struggling team back on track. Might be solving a security incident. But it's usually not just working hard and gunning out tickets, which is what most people tend to think.

Not saying it *should* be this way of course - it's only a few steps of bootlicking to get promoted. But it is the sad reality.

@AlmondSauce honeslty I feel completely unappreciated and replaceable at work, which probably doesn't help

@YADU The other fact is that the easiest place to get a promotion, or a salary raise, is often elsewhere. Hunt for new offers and opportunities - especially if you hate where you are at the moment.

@PaperTrail Not true in woke companies, unfortunately. All they see is skin color / minority status, devotion to diversity, and sucking up.

Skill or reliability means next to nothing where I work. They actually actively encourage mistakes and demerit you for not making them. They say if you’re quick enough, you’ll make mistakes, so if you’re not making mistakes you’re not doing enough. Nevermind that the company is responsible for moving millions of dollars a month and mistakes are costly to both company and end-user. If you don’t meet your FLOP quota, you’re not a good enough dev.

The project manager is as dumb as a bag of rocks. Even if you spell something out simply, and give her the bloody answer, she still gets it wrong. But she’s a lesbian Indian chick with a thick accent and dark brown skin, so she’s heralded as the jira master and lauded with praise… despite getting a quarter of the tickets incorrectly assigned, scheduled, and categorized every month.

Likewise with the HR lady. She can do no right, but she’s black. The black enterprise security guy approves everything without question. Or the Indian accounting dev who insults and steals credit from everyone she works with — normally even imagined trash talking a suspendable offense, but her skin is as dark as coffee and she’s from India, so she’s praised and promoted instead. Straight from junior to principal, in fact, despite having only three years of dev experience and very low aptitude.

Fuckin’ hell, here I am bitching about it all again.

I sorely miss working with competent people on interesting projects.

@Root > "Not true in woke companies, unfortunately. All they see is skin color / minority status, devotion to diversity, and sucking up."

I never discount Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #33, "It never hurts to suck up to the boss."

I'm sorry, I can't imagine the crazy nonsense you see on a daily basis.

My company is rather conservative, and woke nonsense is never brought up.

During an ISO audit (were our docs/processes equitable and fairly accessible) and national+state quality award reviews, being diverse/woke was a top line item. We claimed privacy reasons (which is valid), and didn't disclose any info that would satisfy or anger the woke mob. We were worried by not disclosing that info would disqualify us, but luckily it didn't (we got the awards)

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